Comments Thread For: Lopez: Lomachenko's Statements Just Show What Kind Of Person He Really Is

[alexjust]

Just make the best offers you can and fight the best opponents you can until you climb the rankings. What else can he or anybody else do?

Nothing in Loma's resume or this fight suggests that he should go back to the end of the line and start all over again. He is not a champion anymore, but he is a champion material. If anything, for any champion now Loma would be easy to entice into a fight for bragging rights - imagine retiring a champ like Loma. But I don't see any champion calling Loma out. I wonder why..

[BoZz]

You are deflecting now. Again, what are your life achievements compared to which Loma's achievements are nothing, which make him a bum?.. Or are you too "butthurt" to answer?

He's a bum and that's all what matters, and to make it worse he's a crying bum..now he's blaming the judges

[alexjust]

He's a bum and that's all what matters, and to make it worse he's a crying bum..now he's blaming the judges

I'll just assume you dropped out of middle school and since then for the past 20 years are unemployed and live with your mum and your uncle. Who is also your father.

[BoZz]

I'll just assume you dropped out of middle school and since then for the past 20 years are unemployed and live with your mum and your uncle. Who is also your father.

can't believe you're such a fan boy cry baby I bet you wouldn't be fighting for your mother like that if she needed to be saved like you're fighting for bumachenko's honor.

Hey like I said, prove me wrong in my post about his opposition.

[-Kev-]

The problem with Lomachenko's comments is that he is essentially blaming Bob Arum. He is kind of insinuating that Arum bribed the judges. He is also accusing three top judges of an unsubstantiated crime, which is slander. Especially when most fans and observers/journalists agree that he lost the fight.

Many fighters, many times, claim to be robbed, or disagree with the judges all the time. It's normal. But straight up accusing the judges of being bribed, that's very specific. That's going beyond claiming a robbery.

I think he needs to choose his words and accusations more wisely. This is a guy who skipped the line and got back to back titles shots in his 2nd and 3rd fights thanks to Bob Arum.

[TMT_HEAT]

Lopez only won the first half of the fight because Loma didn't throw any punches. Loma clearly took the 2nd half, minus 12 but looking at the scorecards you would think he got washed all 12.

[BoxingIsGreat]

The problem with Lomachenko's comments is that he is essentially blaming Bob Arum. He is kind of insinuating that Arum bribed the judges. He is also accusing three top judges of an unsubstantiated crime, which is slander. Especially when most fans and observers/journalists agree that he lost the fight.

Many fighters, many times, claim to be robbed, or disagree with the judges all the time. It's normal. But straight up accusing the judges of being bribed, that's very specific. That's going beyond claiming a robbery.

I think he needs to choose his words and accusations more wisely. This is a guy who skipped the line and got back to back titles shots in his 2nd and 3rd fights thanks to Bob Arum.

Some judges keep grudges. That was such ******ity.

[Cypocryphy]

This is an odd fight to talk about. On one hand, Lopez who had a big size advantage over Loma didn't put much damage at all on Loma. With that regard, Teo shouldn't talk much either.

On the other hand, Loma who looked great in the second half of the fight, doesn't have much of a case to be made for winning the fight when he did jack ***** the first half. Probably had difficulty with the size and power adjustment. I think he almost sold out the second half and really went at Lopez but when he did that, he looked great. Just waited too long to do that.

Neither guy can really say it was a great performance. I think a rematch is warranted but it will be the same result if Loma doesn't start faster. I think Lopez fans, I being one though, shouldn't talk much about how great of a win it was because it wasn't pretty at all. He got the W on his record and that's as impressive as it is.

Great comment. I agree, too. A rematch is necessary. It's a fight where I don't feel that Lopez took the belts away from Lomachenko; it's more that Lomachenko gave the belts away.

Let's be honest here: Lopez looked like he was hit in the face with a shovel at the end of the fight, and Lomachenko had a little red mark on his nose. Do you know what that means? Anyone? Anyone? It means that Lopez didn't really connect with Lomachenko, that he did really hit him. It also means that Lomachenko couldn't miss once he let his hands go.

But think about that: Lopez is not pillow fisted. He hits hard as hell. Look at all the other guys he's fought. Their face looks bruised and battered after getting in the ring with Lopez—if they can make it to the end of the fight. Bloodied and battered. Lomachenko just had a little red mark. That's it. Compubox is indeed wrong, which is obviously no surprise.

When I first watched the fight, I scored it a draw. But I was super tired watching it. (Incidentally, I always would get upset with Andre Ward's scoring, but whenever I score a fight, it almost always comes out the same as Andre's card. Ward is a very smart man, and he knows what he sees. (If I do say so myself hah)

I rewatched the fight, scoring it just as they teach all the judges on how to score a fight. You score based on the order of the rules, and the first rule is to score on "clean, effective punches." Then when you can't score based that, you go to the other criteria, that being "effective aggression, ring generalship and defense." But the last three are all designed to what? Anyone? Anyone? That's right: They are ALL designed to enable a boxer to land clean, effective punches.

You go back and watch that fight, and I'm telling you now, Lopez could hardly ever get a clean, effective punch on Lomachenko. And although he controlled the center of the ring in the first three rounds or so, Lomachenko would eventually pull Lopez out of the center and take his spot.

Here's how I scored it based on clean and effective punches: Lopez's rounds – 1,3-5. Lomachenko's rounds: 2, 7-11. Swing rounds: 6 & 12. (That's right, Lomachenko outlanded Lopez in the last round with clean, effective punches. Lopez rallied, and I think its very easy to give him the 12th round, but I do think a case can be made for Lomachenko taking that round.)

It is what it is, and no one can say that Lomachenko was robbed. But lets keep it real here, based on how the judges scored that fight, Lomachenko was screwed. Even if he did his normal build up, he still would have lost because the judges were giving Lopez rounds that he clearly didn't win. Lomachenko had to knockout Lopez to win. That's just what it is, and if there is bias or corruption, it doesn't necessarily mean that the guy claiming it doesn't have a right to do so if he legitimately lost. Close fights are close fights and can go either way. But when you look back and see that there was nothing Lomachenko could have done to win other than dropping Lopez and making sure he didn't get up, it does cause a complete loss of faith in getting a fair shake. So I get Lomachenko's perspective. Absolutely.

I know Bob Arum is saying Lomachenko is being ******. But that's only because Arum wants to keep the smoke screen up. WE ALL KNOW BOXING IS SHADY AS F'CK and that boxers get screwed over daily. It's just a fact. What about Romero vs Martiñez? Romero is Lopez's best friend, and both of them received some highly—HIGHLY—generous scorecards? Is it a coincidence? I don't think so ...

Let's get that Lomachenko vs Lopez rematch going, and let's get it OUT OF Las Vegas. I'd prefer England, but that won't happen. But let's get it somewhere other than Vegas (or Texas!)

[ELPacman]

Great comment. I agree, too. A rematch is necessary. It's a fight where I don't feel that Lopez took the belts away from Lomachenko; it's more that Lomachenko gave the belts away.

Let's be honest here: Lopez looked like he was hit in the face with a shovel at the end of the fight, and Lomachenko had a little red mark on his nose. Do you know what that means? Anyone? Anyone? It means that Lopez didn't really connect with Lomachenko, that he did really hit him. It also means that Lomachenko couldn't miss once he let his hands go.

But think about that: Lopez is not pillow fisted. He hits hard as hell. Look at all the other guys he's fought. Their face looks bruised and battered after getting in the ring with Lopez—if they can make it to the end of the fight. Bloodied and battered. Lomachenko just had a little red mark. That's it. Compubox is indeed wrong, which is obviously no surprise.

When I first watched the fight, I scored it a draw. But I was super tired watching it. (Incidentally, I always would get upset with Andre Ward's scoring, but whenever I score a fight, it almost always comes out the same as Andre's card. Ward is a very smart man, and he knows what he sees. (If I do say so myself hah)

I rewatched the fight, scoring it just as they teach all the judges on how to score a fight. You score based on the order of the rules, and the first rule is to score on "clean, effective punches." Then when you can't score based that, you go to the other criteria, that being "effective aggression, ring generalship and defense." But the last three are all designed to what? Anyone? Anyone? That's right: They are ALL designed to enable a boxer to land clean, effective punches.

You go back and watch that fight, and I'm telling you now, Lopez could hardly ever get a clean, effective punch on Lomachenko. And although he controlled the center of the ring in the first three rounds or so, Lomachenko would eventually pull Lopez out of the center and take his spot.

Here's how I scored it based on clean and effective punches: Lopez's rounds – 1,3-5. Lomachenko's rounds: 2, 7-11. Swing rounds: 6 & 12. (That's right, Lomachenko outlanded Lopez in the last round with clean, effective punches. Lopez rallied, and I think its very easy to give him the 12th round, but I do think a case can be made for Lomachenko taking that round.)

It is what it is, and no one can say that Lomachenko was robbed. But lets keep it real here, based on how the judges scored that fight, Lomachenko was screwed. Even if he did his normal build up, he still would have lost because the judges were giving Lopez rounds that he clearly didn't win. Lomachenko had to knockout Lopez to win. That's just what it is, and if there is bias or corruption, it doesn't necessarily mean that the guy claiming it doesn't have a right to do so if he legitimately lost. Close fights are close fights and can go either way. But when you look back and see that there was nothing Lomachenko could have done to win other than dropping Lopez and making sure he didn't get up, it does cause a complete loss of faith in getting a fair shake. So I get Lomachenko's perspective. Absolutely.

I know Bob Arum is saying Lomachenko is being ******. But that's only because Arum wants to keep the smoke screen up. WE ALL KNOW BOXING IS SHADY AS F'CK and that boxers get screwed over daily. It's just a fact. What about Romero vs Martiñez? Romero is Lopez's best friend, and both of them received some highly—HIGHLY—generous scorecards? Is it a coincidence? I don't think so ...

Let's get that Lomachenko vs Lopez rematch going, and let's get it OUT OF Las Vegas. I'd prefer England, but that won't happen. But let's get it somewhere other than Vegas (or Texas!)

Yeah true, I didn't even touch up on that aspect where Loma had basically no chance to win the fight, even if it looked like he won a few of the early rounds as well (he did not). The scorecards were already filled out and they had Lopez as the winner before the fight even happened.

As you said, Loma's only chance at winning this fight would have been to KO Lopez and that really sucks but you can see where they were going with this. They see a huge star in Lopez and he's young. Having a win like that on his resume at this early on his career means the skies the limit for him regarding future matchups. He's already in high control to call who he fights going forward and in a sense, making sure he keeps winning.

[1Qbobo26]

Ohhhh....are we just now finding out that Lomachenko is a low class individual? Geez Louise....what a shocker. He lied about taking a purse cut for Lopez....he IMMEDIATELY went to the injured "arm" excuse....and now he's spatting off about briberies and robberies.....get him the F OUTTA here.....Haney outboxes him to death and the Gervonta Davis fight would be similar to the Lopez fight because he would be scared of davis's power early on. I'm convinced Gervonta has a slight power advantage over teofimo....so that Loma/Davis fight may turn out even worse for Loma.

Maybe Arum didnt bribe judges but you cant deny the spirit of favoritism that was in the air that night? Their is a thin line between favoritism and corruption. You cant tell me that EVERYBODY (even judges) wasnt over compensating for Lopez and discrediting Loma, so much so that even compubox lied about the punch stats to make it seem that Lopez LANDED MORE and Loma landed LESS. I did a recount and the true compubox numbers were: Loma = 231/345 (67%) to Lopez = 150/558 (27%). You also cant say that Arum didnt want Lopez to win because HE DID. In a few interviews he stated that he HOPED Lopez won and that it would be more beneficial for his company AS WE ALL KNOW. Just like he wanted Horn to beat Pacquaio and was probably no coincidence that they fought in Brisbane. EVERYBODIES hate for Loma stems from their hate for me so you (and the world) viewed this fight as ME vs You, my spiritual condition versus yours and drew a conclusion based off that. THIS CAUSED THE CORRUPTION, caused the judges, commentators and fans to overcompensate for Lopez and discredit Lomachenko! If you deny this your in denial. The fight was REALLY A draw:

Lomachenko:

Rd 1: 1/4 (9)
Rd 2: 6/10 (10)
Rd 3: 4/10 (9)
Rd 4: 4/9 (9)
Rd 5: 7/10 (10)
Rd 6: 13/20 (10)
Rd 7: 10/25 (9)
Rd 8: 30/41 (10)
Rd 9: 24/38 (10)
Rd 10: 34/44 (10)
Rd 11: 56/69 (10)
Rd 12: 42/65 (9)


Lomachenko total = 231/345 (67%)


Lopez:

Rd 1: 6/44 (10)
Rd 2: 7/39 (9)
Rd 3: 5/45 (10)
Rd 4: 5/42 (10)
Rd 5: 7/41 (10)
Rd 6: 9/39 (9)
Rd 7: 11/45 (10)
Rd 8: 14/41 (9)
Rd 9: 15/45 (9)
Rd 10: 17/60 (9)
Rd 11: 15/56 (9)
Rd 12: 40/61 (10)


Lopez Total = 150/558 (27%)

Loma: 2,6,8-11
Lopez: 1,3,4,5,7,12

6-6 Majority Draw