Why did Haymon turned Luis Ortiz into a showcase fighter?

[Curt Henning]

now he says "true or not" after saying "you actually believe he made 7 mil" lolol

you cant make this stuff up...what a bunch of insecure, bumbling, fgts

[maguirre]

True or not, the question is why?
Why was he paid that amount for a fight that's not even that big?
That's about Cotto payday vs Mayweather. Haha...
Wilder suddenly becoming Floyd-level fighter. LOL.
Ortiz becoming Cotto-level fighter. haha...

Maybe Haymon convinced Fox to overypay the two clowns.
Thinking that it's an investment to lure other big fights and negotiate with
aces on the table.

No wonder Showtime Espinoza rejected that fight,
"It didn't make sense for us,"

Yeah, I don't think the A-side even have to get paid $7 million for that fight, let alone the B-side. The previous AJ negotiations for both certainly influenced those figures and have something to do with it.

[ShaneMosleySr]

He was promised huge pay because he was the only credible heavyweight opponent in the pbc stable for wilder.

True or not, the question is why?
Why was he paid that amount for a fight that's not even that big?
That's about Cotto payday vs Mayweather. Haha...
Wilder suddenly becoming Floyd-level fighter. LOL.
Ortiz becoming Cotto-level fighter. haha...

Maybe Haymon convinced Fox to overypay the two clowns.
Thinking that it's an investment to lure other big fights and negotiate with
aces on the table.

No wonder Showtime Espinoza rejected that fight,
"It didn't make sense for us,"

[DaNeutral.]

believe what you want....its fine...i dont care either way....the point and reality is this=ortiz got the same money to fight wilder that was turned down to fight AJ....thats just fact......you believe your story ill believe mine...what i just said cant be disputed

Its not my story its the story of Luis Ortiz management. So your story is your story and my story is facts.

[El_Mero]

It's Wilders only decent win. Should those guys fight and beat him then Wilders win won't look as impressive. That's also why he wasn't allowed to fight Joshua when he was offered a fight. They had to lie to both Hearn and Ortiz himself to make sure that didn't happen cuz he was up for itzm, they pretended he was on Holiday and kept him completely in the dark.

PBC fans like to tell us they playing chess over there at the PBC, yes they are, they use pawns to protect their Kings, they have ruined a potential good career for Ortiz in the aid of trying to build Wilder as a PPV star.

Santa Cruz was a pawn for Tank Davis to destroy and Mikey Garcia was Errol Spence's pawn except Spence couldn't do what was expected of him and knock Mikey out.

This, word for word.

[eakunne@luc.edu]

Ehhh...Ortiz didn’t want to fight AJ on short notice especially when his payday with wilder for the 2nd fight was gonna be marginally better and he would be fully prepared..can’t really fault him on that...also Mikey garcia has been on record saying that haymon didn’t want him to take the Spence fight but Mikey insisted so haymon obliged...with Leo there’s not arguments he was an intelligent matchmaking ploy by mayweather/haymon, he got paid handsomely for it and honestly I left that fight more impressed with Leo than tank

[DaNeutral.]

Ehhh...Ortiz didn’t want to fight AJ on short notice especially when his payday with wilder for the 2nd fight was gonna be marginally better and he would be fully prepared..can’t really fault him on that...also Mikey garcia has been on record saying that haymon didn’t want him to take the Spence fight but Mikey insisted so haymon obliged...with Leo there’s not arguments he was an intelligent matchmaking ploy by mayweather/haymon, he got paid handsomely for it and honestly I left that fight more impressed with Leo than tank

Wrong, they didn't bother to tell Ortiz he had been offered a fight and lied to Eddie Hearn by telling him Ortiz was on vacation with his family when he was actually at the gym.

[rickJen]

Any word from Mike Coppinger yet about the subject of this thread?
Who among PBC heavyweights, Martin, Kownacki, Ruiz, Arreola,
Washington, Breazeale, were offered a fight with Ortiz and turned it down?
Were they offered the fight at all, or Haymon is just naturally fond
of making showcase fights?

We need answers to these simple questions.
Media people need to do their job.

[Curt Henning]

haymon made wilder 70.5 million the last two years
got ortiz his 7 mil payda
made andy ruiz over 20 million dollars

all this in the dead US boxing market

lol...stay salty brittish fgts

[Curt Henning]

Its not my story its the story of Luis Ortiz management. So your story is your story and my story is facts.

and you can believe that...its fine

the point was/is...haymon got ortiz the same money to fight wilder he missed out on not fighting AJ...plain and simple...end of story/discussion