Why did Haymon turned Luis Ortiz into a showcase fighter?

[rickJen]

Haymon can't force those fighters to fight him. There has to be a mutual agreement. A lot of people fail to understand that.

Sure. But those guys would have already been thrown under the bus by PBC fanboys if they're with TR or GBP.
They're ducking grandpa doe!

[KingGilgamesh]

Imagine Martin fights Ortiz and knocks him out. What would Wilder`s record look like?

Ortiz is smoke and mirrors, they needed him as some hyped monster to make Wilder`s record look better.

Ortiz will never go anywhere near Breazeale, Martin, Ruiz, because all these guys can knock him out.

Ruiz can definitely give Ortiz problems but the other two are laughable. Funnily enough they're all Joshua's opponents. Why are so many of you so desperate to sell any of this guys opponents as unbelievably talented? Martin? Seriously? I don't really know where Ortiz stands either but he's beat Jennings in comfortable fashion and even watching against a punching bag like Allen made it abundantly clear why he (and Cuban fighters in general) are rated well.

LOOOL if Ortiz had faced Joshua he would be held up by you guys are the boxing standard for the division.

[Curt Henning]

lets try to explain to ****** genrick one time that theres no way a fighter turns down 7 mil to fight AJ unless hes getting 7 mil to fight wilder

well first...nobody is that dumb or that loyal to an advisor....and even if ortiz were al wouldnt let him...when DAZN came up with a huge offer for danny jacobs al said "go boy go get that money"....because DAZN wanted to vastly overpay jacobs...hes got to be one of their bigger regrets right now...but al wasnt going to hold him when the offer was too good to be true....FYI al is still an advisor to danny

ortiz turned down the AJ fight because he was promised the offer would be matched to fight wilder and that would help haymon with wilder.....al also sent another HW over there to collect the check and got that boy paid twice! so he still got ortiz the 7 mil just in another fight and in the process got andy ruiz(thrown away by top rank) paid real nice twice! plus wilder made 70 mil over the last two years

i know that hurts to hear....but its factual....i know that really gets under the skin of the haymon haters....but haymon wins and his fighters profit...thats why they all love him

[rickJen]

So you can't explain where the $7 million came from.
He was worth $500K in the first fight and made 14x that in the 2nd fight?
It's hilarious.

Strange part was it was never confirmed by Ortiz's team of clowns.
No PBC shill bothered to because they knew it was a huge lie.
Ortiz team of clowns were fully open to the media when they were negotiating with Hearn,
then suddenly played cricket in the PBC house.

I suspect Haymon told them that DAZN will go back and make another offer.

[Curt Henning]

So you can't explain where the $7 million came from.
He was worth $500K in the first fight and made 14x that in 2nd fight.
It's hilarious.

Strange part was it was never confirmed by Ortiz's team clowns.
No PBC shill bothered to because they knew it was a huge lie.
Ortiz team clown were fully open when they were negotiating with Hearn,
then suddenly played cricket in the PBC house.

I suspect Haymon told them that DAZN will go back and make another offer.

"common sense, logic and reports all say otherwise but i still dont believe it...cause i dont wanna"

you couldnt be more of an insecure fgt

the 7 mil was reported by espn, forbes, and badlefthook along with many other outlets

why do i have to answer where it came from? it didnt come from me...i didnt pay him....you lame fgt

"i suspect i suspect i suspect"...suspect...yeah you definitley are

[DaNeutral.]

lets try to explain to ****** genrick one time that theres no way a fighter turns down 7 mil to fight AJ unless hes getting 7 mil to fight wilder

well first...nobody is that dumb or that loyal to an advisor....and even if ortiz were al wouldnt let him...when DAZN came up with a huge offer for danny jacobs al said "go boy go get that money"....because DAZN wanted to vastly overpay jacobs...hes got to be one of their bigger regrets right now...but al wasnt going to hold him when the offer was too good to be true....FYI al is still an advisor to danny

ortiz turned down the AJ fight because he was promised the offer would be matched to fight wilder and that would help haymon with wilder.....al also sent another HW over there to collect the check and got that boy paid twice! so he still got ortiz the 7 mil just in another fight and in the process got andy ruiz(thrown away by top rank) paid real nice twice! plus wilder made 70 mil over the last two years

i know that hurts to hear....but its factual....i know that really gets under the skin of the haymon haters....but haymon wins and his fighters profit...thats why they all love him

That's bull. Ortiz was left in the dark over the offer to face AJ. His management lied and said he was on holiday with his family, his coach confirmed that was nonsense that he was actually in the gym and would of took the fight had they known about it. Their management apologised and claimed there had been miscommunication. Can't prove them wrong but we know that's pure BS.

Point being you are full of it. You tell a very different story to what really happened. And all I said can be found online coming directly from. Ortiz own management.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Ortiz earned $7 million to fight Wilder. I can’t believe this is still a debate.

Here’s the report:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkat...ong-will-make/

[Curt Henning]

That's bull. Ortiz was left in the dark over the offer to face AJ. His management lied and said he was on holiday with his family, his coach confirmed that was nonsense that he was actually in the gym and would of took the fight had they known about it. Their management apologised and claimed there had been miscommunication. Can't prove them wrong but we know that's pure BS.

Point being you are full of it. You tell a very different story to what really happened. And all I said can be found online coming directly from. Ortiz own management.

believe what you want....its fine...i dont care either way....the point and reality is this=ortiz got the same money to fight wilder that was turned down to fight AJ....thats just fact......you believe your story ill believe mine...what i just said cant be disputed

[Curt Henning]

Ortiz earned $7 million to fight Wilder. I can’t believe this is still a debate.

Here’s the report:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkat...ong-will-make/

it shouldnt be...but you still have insecure british fgts out here running their cack traps

[rickJen]

Ortiz earned $7 million to fight Wilder. I can’t believe this is still a debate.

Here’s the report:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkat...ong-will-make/

True or not, the question is why?
Why was he paid that amount for a fight that's not even that big?
That's about Cotto payday vs Mayweather. Haha...
Wilder suddenly becoming Floyd-level fighter. LOL.
Ortiz becoming Cotto-level fighter. haha...

Maybe Haymon convinced Fox to overypay the two clowns.
Thinking that it's an investment to lure other big fights and negotiate with
aces on the table.

No wonder Showtime Espinoza rejected that fight,
"It didn't make sense for us,"