Comments Thread For: Saunders: Four, Five Weeks Not Enough Time For Smith To Prepare To Beat Canelo

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  • Boxingfanatic75
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    #61
    Originally posted by SteveM
    well cool, you should know much. But here's the thing, the fact that boxers fought 5/6 times a year back in the day meant that they didn't need a long camp as they were 'match fit' to use the lingo used in soccer.

    These days, for whatever reason, boxers are only fighting twice a year so they get out of shape, lose their sharpness and timing.

    But I agree that Smith shouldn't need 10 weeks for this fight because he's been one of the rumored opponents for months now. BJS on the other hand would need that amount of time.
    I get upset because you nailed it on the head! I don’t remotely understand how PROFESSIONAL boxers today need such a long time if they stay fit as professionals do. I understand promotional time etc but to require a camp beyond 6 weeks tells me you don’t take your craft seriously and require the camp to lose an exorbitant amount of weight to get in shape.

    Other than the gloves and round totals for championship fights Boxing hasn’t changed in over 100 years. Boxers now and especially the champions sit and bake and bake and bake not fighting and just sitting waiting for the next million dollar pay day.

    This is another reason why boxing has gone downhill. Champions and challengers of the past were constantly fighting so the public knew EXACTLY who they were; both casual and hard core fan. Today you ask the average Joe who Tyson Fury, Wilder AJ, Spence or Garcia are and they’d look at you like deer in headlights.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #62
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
      That is false. Hearn and Callum have said it was lies. He asked for his biggest payday, but he was asking for a lot less than Kovalev got.

      And besides, that's the kind of money other opponents have got. So even if he did ask for that much, why would that be pricing himself out? Did Canelo think he could get Callum for a couple of Mill or something?
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      You're saying Steve Kim is a liar?
      Context is everything, so let me remind you guys. In 2019 the Athletic disclosed turmoil between the platform and GBP, possible collusion with Matchroom too for everyone wanting Canelo vs GGG trilogy. This is public domain knowledge, and in 2020 all of it was revealed true when every reporter disclosed the circumstances for “premier” paydays. In fact Canelo was already having issues with GBP and DAZN regarding premier opponent selections prior to the pandemic.

      The pandemic only made things worse, adding reduction in wages for everyone ON TOP of the initial circumstances.

      $10mil was too much for Smith. Hearn never shut down that rumor so it’s quite possible he was the one coaching his fighter to turn down the fight as it would be third fighter 0-3 from Matchroom against GBP, so Hearn rather have in-house fights with Smith vs BJS. Furthermore, it’s been highly rumored that Hearn had a conflict of interest for approvals or persuasion within DAZN to protect his Matchroom.

      When Smith realized that the pandemic would affect any pay that’s when he disclosed wanting HALF. The same HALF’s being reduced throughout the board. $5mil is what they wanted. That’s half of $10mil. Even that imo is high for a pandemic scenario. As you can see, many fighters have exploited the pandemic situation to price themselves out.

      Luckily time is precios with boxers, and it’s no telling when Smith would get another shot or pay with Canelo. He acknowledged the pandemic. Hearn explained Canelo Promotions solo here forward. These circumstances changed everything and now we have the fight.

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      • Armchairhero
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        #63
        Originally posted by Junbengreat
        I guess in the UK you need 4-5 months to train for a fight. Here in the states, we just need 4-5 weeks to kick your butt. The cream will rise to the top
        Has Cannelo changed nationality recently?

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        • QballLobo
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          #64
          If you respect the game and stay in shape and train before camp it should be plenty of time.
          If you let yourself go like BJS or Hatton then use camp to cut weight and fend off all the crap you have been eating then it would be an issue.
          When a life changing opportunity comes a long you have to be able to seize the moment.
          A wise man once said; there is no luck, just preparation meeting opportunity.

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          • STREET CLEANER
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            #65
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee
            You really are this dumb aren't you? Even after all the things Canelo does. Haha.

            Going through the motions and a proper camp are two completely different things. Canelo knew Callum would take the fight at 4 weeks notice to get as big an advantage as possible. Canelo has been preparing for this fight for months. Don't delude yourself otherwise.
            What happened? Did my comments got your vulva swollen?

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            • JonDP
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              #66
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              Canelo would take a fight 4 weeks out, say, against Beterbiev without having a proper camp to prepare?

              Sure he would.

              Canelo does this all the time. Yet you still think this coward isn't a complete fraud?

              Man, you must be a big fan to let him get away with this all the time. Big fan.
              Does that all the time? Your argument is just a lie. Other than Kovalev, who else did he fight on short notice? And it makes no difference, they either have the qualities to beat him or they don’t, 2 or 3 months of training are not going to change that. Get your head out of your Canelo-hating fat ass.

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              • ShoulderRoll
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                #67
                Originally posted by Armchairhero
                Has Cannelo changed nationality recently?
                No but he trains in the States.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by 4truth
                  Nobody here has any idea if Smith has been training or if he hasn’t. If he hasn’t then he’s screwed because definitely he hasn’t had enough time to train. Doesn’t make it any less true to say it’s Smith’s fault for not training on the possibility of the fight being made.

                  More important tho, IMO, is the weight.
                  If Smith wasn't ready for the fight then he shouldn't have taken it.

                  Let someone else who is hungry get the opportunity and the payday.

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                  • 4truth
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    If Smith wasn't ready for the fight then he shouldn't have taken it.

                    Let someone else who is hungry get the opportunity and the payday.
                    If you were a prize fighter and passed on the opportunity because you were not quite ready, you would be a fool. Same for hydration clauses and nagging injuries. It’s unfortunate but that’s the way of the world.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by 4truth
                      If you were a prize fighter and passed on the opportunity because you were not quite ready, you would be a fool. Same for hydration clauses and nagging injuries. It’s unfortunate but that’s the way of the world.
                      Then no complaints and no excuses.

                      Canelo was dealing with a legal case against GBP and DAZN so it's not like he knew if or when he'd be able to fight this year. He picked the soonest date he could once he was finally free of those contracts.

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