Tyson Fury nominated for SPOTY

[Toffee]

I think there are many more people who try to become an F1 driver than boxer

That couldn't possibly be true.

How do you even get into F1?

[sunny31]

I don't respect car drivers, at least compared to world champion boxers.

From what i understand, you have to be born into money to become an F1 driver. Hamilton was a rich kid.

Anyone from any background can become a boxer.

I think you need to do your research, far from it - he made it against all odds. His Dad was working 3 jobs to fund his early career and McLaren signed him and funded his single seater career. That was a first for an f1 team signing such a young person at the time.

Everything about Hamilton says child prodigy who went on to fulfill his potential

[PRINCEKOOL]

I don't respect car drivers, at least compared to world champion boxers.

From what i understand, you have to be born into money to become an F1 driver. Hamilton was a rich kid.

Anyone from any background can become a boxer.

Tyson Fury comes from a better background than Lewis Hamilton 'Hamilton was not a rich kid' his father had to work 2 jobs in order to fund their carting career, just by chance he was spotted by Ron Dennis who saw something special within Hamilton.

Tyson Fury was wrapped in cotton wool from the beginning 'Comes from a great well bonded family'. IN his community, I doubt people messed around with Tyson Fury and the Fury's.

[sunny31]

That couldn't possibly be true.

How do you even get into F1?

There is no way to prove it, in the 70s?...no chance. Boxing will always be more accessible.

But there really arent nearly as many boxing gyms nowadays and many less kids willing to walk into them.

You have to start with karting - where 95% fail.

The other 5% move to single seater racing. Where the remaining 3% prob fail. At this stage if you're really good you will probably get sponsors and potentially into a driver programme for one of the f1 teams where they school you and provide financial support.

You then get to F3 and if your one of the best 2-3 drivers in this class you have half a chance.

F2 (formerly GP2) - if you've made it here and you are one of the top 2-3 drivers or win the championship, it is likely that you will get a drive in F1 at some point.

F1

There are of course barriers to entry - financial being the biggest one. There is no doubt that talented drivers may hit a brick wall somewhere in the process - but I think nowadays most of the super talented ones will get picked up and funded if needed. It is true that a driver who is able to pay his own way has a better chance.

My original point was based on the fact that if you think about all the other series in motorsport (DTM, sports car, rallying, touring car, etc etc) many of those drivers first had aspiration of being in f1.

I'm probably wrong - but I think it's probably closer than what some people think. Karting is pretty huge.

[PRINCEKOOL]

There is no way to prove it, in the 70s?...no chance. Boxing will always be more accessible.

But there really arent nearly as many boxing gyms nowadays and many less kids willing to walk into them.

You have to start with karting - where 95% fail.

The other 5% move to single seater racing. Where the remaining 3% prob fail. At this stage if you're really good you will probably get sponsors and potentially into a driver programme for one of the f1 teams where they school you and provide financial support.

You then get to F3 and if your one of the best 2-3 drivers in this class you have half a chance.

F2 (formerly GP2) - if you've made it here and you are one of the top 2-3 drivers or win the championship, it is likely that you will get a drive in F1 at some point.

F1

There are of course barriers to entry - financial being the biggest one. There is no doubt that talented drivers may hit a brick wall somewhere in the process - but I think nowadays most of the super talented ones will get picked up and funded if needed. It is true that a driver who is able to pay his own way has a better chance.

My original point was based on the fact that if you think about all the other series in motorsport (DTM, sports car, rallying, touring car, etc etc) many of those drivers first had aspiration of being in f1.

I'm probably wrong - but I think it's probably closer than what some people think. Karting is pretty huge.

Boxing has a higher participation rate and is more accessible.

Formula 1 is a elitist sport like Golf and Tennis.

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Boxing has a higher participation rate and is more accessible.

Formula 1 is a elitist sport like Golf and Tennis.

I still think you need to have money to become a racing driver, what happens if you don't have a dad who can work 3 jobs?

Anyway, this forum should wholeheartedly support Tyson Fury for SPOTY, even if you don't like him.

[YoungManRumble]

I still think you need to have money to become a racing driver, what happens if you don't have a dad who can work 3 jobs?

Anyway, this forum should wholeheartedly support Tyson Fury for SPOTY, even if you don't like him.

Say what you will about the man... Personally my biggest gripe is I feel he was cashing in on the "depression" trend to make a nice interesting narrative for the first fight with bumsquadron... And even then it's just mostly a personal issue.

BUT he is basically the definition of a sports personality.

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Say what you will about the man... Personally my biggest gripe is I feel he was cashing in on the "depression" trend to make a nice interesting narrative for the first fight with bumsquadron... And even then it's just mostly a personal issue.

BUT he is basically the definition of a sports personality.

I don't think so, and I don't think it can be denied that Fury has helped a lot of people face their demons.

If a world champion boxer can become depressed, then anyone can.

Fury is doing the lord's work, suicide is one of the leading causes of death for young males.

[alexguiness]

Given the fact Fury is 1) Male, 2) White and 3) Holds counter SJW views on marriage and sexuality, I am highly confident that he will not win an award from the BBC.

In order to be SPOTY you now need to be at least 3 (if not ALL) of the following;

1) *****A
2) Disabled
3) Female
4) Trans
5) Black or Brown.

[YoungManRumble]

I don't think so, and I don't think it can be denied that Fury has helped a lot of people face their demons.

If a world champion boxer can become depressed, then anyone can.

Fury is doing the lord's work, suicide is one of the leading causes of death for young males.

Yeah it's not worth getting into a whole thing about.

If he helped anyone face their demons or live another day then I cant really argue with that.

To diminish everything for a moment though, *** sympathy probably reigns supreme over mental health hero in terms of athletes causes. In the media anyway.