Dubois is still future world champ

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  • Ray*
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    #11
    Originally posted by Butt stuff
    I don’t hold anything against him for taking a knee and protecting his eyesight at 23 and at the start of his career.

    The worrying part is that he couldn’t avoid or adapt even slightly to that jab. Joyce hardly threw (let alone landed) anything else!
    Well said. Joyce hardly threw the right hand, upper cuts or any other variety of punches. He hardly move his head or adapted to it like you said.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Of course, no offence but its easy to win a world title in this era, Fury and Joshua are in their 30s. So for me he has a better chance than normal.
      Irony is, kid has better chance to win the title than Joyce who just beat him.

      I don`t believe Joyce can beat AJ or Fury. When Dubois comes to world title challenger position, Joshua and Fury will not be around any more.

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        #13
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
        Irony is, kid has better chance to win the title than Joyce who just beat him.

        I don`t believe Joyce can beat AJ or Fury. When Dubois comes to world title challenger position, Joshua and Fury will not be around any more.
        Kinda think Joyce CAN beat AJ right now. The fact that he comes and comes, makes him a danger for any HW that isn't great in the gas tank department. Add the fact that he has a good chin on him, if they kept landing and he is still there then i could see them (Someone like Whyte or AJ) exhausted.

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          #14
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          He is 23 and that is old enough to show his potential to be a future champion if he has the potential.I don't think he has the potential to be a future heavyweight champion. He is too slow and clumsy and does not throw enough punches a round.He is easy to hit. The foundation to be a future world champion is not there. He has never defeated any boxer rated in boxrec top 30 or any boxer even close to a top 10 contender.
          Like I already mentioned, other prospects are already 28 or something and showed me nothing so far.

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          • Toffee
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            #15
            He'll be a very experienced pro by his prime. Absolutely the potential to be a world champion.

            How many come back fine from a broken orbital though?

            It's his leading eye. He's going to take a lot of shots on it.

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              #16
              If someone told me Wilder would grab a world title and have however many defenses I'd have literally shat myself laughing.
              Never say never especially in this era of HWs but I really just do not see that happening. Outside of him beating some total scrub for the WBO that is, always a possibility with a FW fighter.

              Dubois is quite frankly slow, stiff, flat-footed and extremely limited and shown zero signs of improvement since his amateur days. His stamina doesn't seem too great and his heart is questionable.

              He's a bit of a physical specimen but he's not particularly talented nor gifted or athletic in any sense.

              Most, in fact I'd say all but Fury lacked a lot whether its the ability to fight up close, stamina or something else glaring but Dubois really is just one a one-trick pony. I don't feel he has a bright future. I just see him being a guy who will look devastating at a low level but get exposed time & time again vs anyone that is big, durable and savvy.

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              • Fighter78
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                #17
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                Yes he is. Kid is young, he will learn from that loss and come back stronger.

                Just look at his future opposition. Hrgovic is 28, fought nobody, untested. East Euros are fighting club fighters only. Ajagba was dropped by Kiladze, looked bad in last 2 fights. Yoka looked terrible against Hammer. He is 28 already. Conto is untested and 24 already. Sanchez is 28, fighting nobodies.

                Don`t make me laugh like Dubois is not good enough to win the title against those guys in the future.
                The problem with this essay is that NONE OF THOSE GUYS ARE GOING TO BE CHAMPIONS...LOL

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                  Yes he is. Kid is young, he will learn from that loss and come back stronger.

                  Just look at his future opposition. Hrgovic is 28, fought nobody, untested. East Euros are fighting club fighters only. Ajagba was dropped by Kiladze, looked bad in last 2 fights. Yoka looked terrible against Hammer. He is 28 already. Conto is untested and 24 already. Sanchez is 28, fighting nobodies.

                  Don`t make me laugh like Dubois is not good enough to win the title against those guys in the future.
                  OK...I got one question for you.....When has a PROSPECT lost a fight BY QUITTING or AT ALL and then come back to win a world title? Im talking PROSPECTS here so work with me...lol
                  Last edited by Fighter78; 12-01-2020, 10:14 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Fighter78
                    The problem with this essay is that NONE OF THOSE GUYS ARE GOING TO BE CHAMPIONS...LOL
                    Somebody will be. Or you think Fury will fight till his middle 40-s. Good call.

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                      #20
                      Dubois lack of hand speed worries me.

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