Dubois is still future world champ

[JakeTheBoxer]

Hrgovic will defeat him, Joyce will still be around then you have Vlad Sirenko who reportedly dropped him bad in sparring who is a monster puncher so ?

I have seen nothing special from Hrgovic and Sirenko so far. Untested guys. Price also looked great when he fought at that level.

[JakeTheBoxer]

nah, not it this era, maybe in 2030's, too many 28-35 y.o guys right now who are more skillful with ton of experience, he should try to go to the Tokyo Olympics first and see and learn fighting his future opponents

Except Fury and Usyk, who are these more skilled guys?

[REDEEMER]

I have seen nothing special from Hrgovic and Sirenko so far. Untested guys. Price also looked great when he fought at that level.

Sirenko and Hrgovic are better then DDD . Even Hrgovic at 19 was toying with Wilder and put Haye out of a fight . How are they untested but DDD is a future champion, Sirenko flattened him in sparing and he went toe to toe with Joyce . Joyce just sc****d by Hrgovic years ago in a 5 rounder . There’s no logic where you say Dubois is a future champion but then say those guys aren’t special and untested .

[Satir]

Except Fury and Usyk, who are these more skilled guys?

Joe Joyce, lol, has way better defence than ppl gives him credit for
are we talking about who has the better skills or who beats Dubois, i think even the likes of Hunter or Gassiev beats him, let alone guys like Makhmudov or Majidov

[kiaba360]

Kinda think Joyce CAN beat AJ right now. The fact that he comes and comes, makes him a danger for any HW that isn't great in the gas tank department. Add the fact that he has a good chin on him, if they kept landing and he is still there then i could see them (Someone like Whyte or AJ) exhausted.

I think AJ showed a better gas tank in the Ruiz rematch with all the movement he was doing, but Ruiz wasn't really pressing the action. Joyce's pressure could potentially make AJ unravel.

[IcefergBoxing]

I believe he will be too. I have my doubts Joshua could have took the punishment Joyce did. I actually think Dubois may stand a better chance vs Usyk than Joyce because he throws faster combos that Usyk may struggle to evade but I'm pleased to see Joyce is getting his chance.

[L. Cipher]

He ain't winning no belts if he can't learn to slip and parry jabs

[just the facts]

Yes he is. Kid is young, he will learn from that loss and come back stronger.

Just look at his future opposition. Hrgovic is 28, fought nobody, untested. East Euros are fighting club fighters only. Ajagba was dropped by Kiladze, looked bad in last 2 fights. Yoka looked terrible against Hammer. He is 28 already. Conto is untested and 24 already. Sanchez is 28, fighting nobodies.

Don`t make me laugh like Dubois is not good enough to win the title against those guys in the future.

While certainly not impossible. Not likely either.

[billeau2]

If someone told me Wilder would grab a world title and have however many defenses I'd have literally shat myself laughing.
Never say never especially in this era of HWs but I really just do not see that happening. Outside of him beating some total scrub for the WBO that is, always a possibility with a FW fighter.

Dubois is quite frankly slow, stiff, flat-footed and extremely limited and shown zero signs of improvement since his amateur days. His stamina doesn't seem too great and his heart is questionable.

He's a bit of a physical specimen but he's not particularly talented nor gifted or athletic in any sense.

Most, in fact I'd say all but Fury lacked a lot whether its the ability to fight up close, stamina or something else glaring but Dubois really is just one a one-trick pony. I don't feel he has a bright future. I just see him being a guy who will look devastating at a low level but get exposed time & time again vs anyone that is big, durable and savvy.

Agreed totally green K. The actual skills are low, the ability to adapt ziltch...I mean protect the eye, throw a left hook when the guy is stepping off to avoid your right... I hate to question the guys heart... I really do but I have to. Would Fury have stopped fighting? I doubt it. Ali against Frazier?

I can only defend the kid by saying it goes hand in hand. Not being able to defend the eye and stopping. I see no skills, no had movement, no foot movement, no punching finesse.

[billeau2]

He ain't winning no belts if he can't learn to slip and parry jabs

Another great observation. Yes! thats why fighters have to learn to operate at all ranges! Slip, if you cannot parry, go inside.