Does Jones legacy past 2003 count?

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  • Bandman
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    #11
    lol this is like Jordan fans who like to ignore all the years he didn't win a title.

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    • Tony Trick-Pony
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      #12
      Originally posted by RespekonMyName
      After 2005, a win over Jones didn't mean much. Calzaghe beat a mummy. It's sad that victory is held up as a trophy for Joe. That's like Holmes beating Ali.
      No it's not. Ali was brain-dead. Roy wasn't.

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      • BodyBagz
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        #13
        Every fight counts.

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        • RespekonMyName
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          #14
          Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
          No it's not. Ali was brain-dead. Roy wasn't.
          Roy was a shell of himself. The Lacy win was way better for Joe. We all know Calzaghe couldn't touch prime Roy.

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          • RespekonMyName
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            #15
            Originally posted by Bandman
            lol this is like Jordan fans who like to ignore all the years he didn't win a title.
            Nobody does that.

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            • boliodogs
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              #16
              Personally I judge boxers mainly by what they did in their prime years and not much by losses they had when they were clearly past prime. Some boxers like Mayweather and especially Hopkins have a very long prime or at least age does not slow them down nearly as much as it does almost all other boxers. That is a plus in their favor but almost all other boxers are greatly affected by age and hard fights and some earlier than others. The great SRR lost 19 time with most losses coming after he was 35 years old. Ray Leonard got slaughtered in the two final fights of his career at age 35 and 40. The prime Roy Jones was one of the best fighters I ever saw but he went down hill fast after the KO loss to Tarver.

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              • boogbx
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                #17
                Roy Jones up to 03 was hand picked by God to be a great fighter.

                The steroids use is bad, that hurts his legacy but what I saw him do to James Toney is something only a great fighter could’ve done as James himself is a great fighter.

                I’d put Roy against Foster, Sphinx, Moorer whoever you claim to be the best at 168-175 and I’ll take prime Roy each time.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #18
                  yeah it counts, its pretty funny, when golovkin had a loss on his credit to canelo (even though he shouldnt) people say he was exposed at 36, yet when roy jones was getting knocked around that age apparantly it doesnt count, he was past prime. Fact is he got figured out, he wasnt all that old when people were beating him either.

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                  • Madison Boxing
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RespekonMyName
                    Roy was a shell of himself. The Lacy win was way better for Joe. We all know Calzaghe couldn't touch prime Roy.
                    calzaghe would have beat him in prime too. joe was no spring chicken either when he fought jones, you just saw the difference in boxing iq, joe boxed rings around him.

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                      #20
                      Ironically combat sports fans are weak minded little boys. At some point you have to grow up and accept the fact that your beloved fighter started losing at some point in his career and it's a part of it just like his best days.

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