Comments Thread For: Hearn: Fury Should Skip Stay-Busy Return, Face Joshua Next

[RoadMan94]

Actually he thinks Fury is an easier fight for Joshua then Wilder . There would be no reason to not want the Fury fight ,Frank Warren and Bob arum on the other hand don’t have it so easy promoting Fury and making profits they actually require Fury to have a title . AJ is big business with or without a title . You act saw his popular sky rocket after the loss and then sky rocket even more with regaining the tiles .

I wouldn’t say sky rocketed, and I dunno where you live? But up north nobody cares about Joshua only casuals. Real boxing men and women all know Joshua wants Usyk more than fury. And no it’s not easier that’s what you think they think buddy.

[deathofaclown]

Hearn won't be making much money if AJ loses all the belts to fury.

Fury is clear favorite for a reason. Hearn isn't risking his money maker.

Hearn never wanted wilder fight, for same reason, too risky.

I kind of think differently.

Hearn saw how vulnerable Joshua is against Ruiz and I think will be looking to go in to that Fury fight because the money will be incredible . It’s better to get smashed by Fury for all that money than risking somebody else doing it in a much smaller fight like Ruiz did, Because it will happen again at some point. He is too vulnerable for it not to.

Hearn will know that.

[Ochoa780]

Na they need fans for this fight. In the uk these guys would lose out on a ton of money without that gate, they would sell out a freaking soccer stadium easy.

[Vinnykin]

I'd like Usyk to step aside and allow an undisputed fight. I think Wilder should FKK off after the crap he has said on top of the way he lost against Fury, it was a demolition, no close call, no need for a 3rd.

Usyk is not stepping aside..... not happening.

Joshua is tied-up unless he relinquishes the belt. There is no way Usyk is stepping aside while Fury and Joshua have two fights.

[Cool Scant]

At the time of that first offer, Wilder was an absolute nobody in his own country, never mind in the UK, and was defending his title against the likes of Szpilka and Duhaupas. Just for a laugh, go back at that fight and see how much Duhaupas beat him up, a fighter that was already soundly defeated by Pianeta, another journeyman fighter handpicked by Fury after over 2 years out.

All of this is a moot point anyway, since Wilder subsequently got a $100m offer to fight AJ and still turned that down to get beaten by Fury for less money, so take your love of Wilder elsewhere. He is nowhere near deserving of any percentage split right now and needs to work himself back up to contender status.

I guess Martin was a rockstar when AJ gave him equivalent to 47% lol
Why didn't AJ offer fury the same $100M flat fee? I see through you radical nationalists

[Cool Scant]

Spence could have offered Bud $80milion to fight him twice, like DAZN did with Wilder to try and get him into a ring with AJ.

But that would be a flat fee, of course. Very disrespectful!

No way is Bud going to accept $80million from anybody if it's a flat fee!

Last time I checked Spence v Crawford isn't a $100M fight or it would've happened already.
Second if the $80M flat fee was a great offer why didn't AJ give the same offer to fury? If the DAZN flat fee was a great offer why did the CEO of DAZN apologized to wilder and said that DAZN messed up the wilder meeting? Lol Funny wilder offered AJ $80M and a 50/50 split for 2 fights but you radical nationalist make excuses for AJ ducking a better offer than he asked for.

[Zelda]

They did let things go. It was Wilders camp that pulled the plug on the December fight. Finkel broke the news to Fury's camp. They knew damn well Fury was prepared to delay the fight for Covid but wanted to fight by the end of the year.

Its Wilders side that seemed to let it drag beyond the contract expiry date and THEN went on a massive slander Tyson Fury spree which would tempt any man to walk away and shun the big mouthed prick.

If I didn't know any better I'd say they actively tried to get Fury to walk away from Wilder cuz they know Wilder can't cope with that level of class in the Boxing ring.

That's not what Bob's telling us.

Apparently, it is the networks that let it go in December and not Wilder's team. It is ESPN and FOX that declined due to college football and it is Bob that keeps telling us the fight cannot happen without live gate.

[BodyBagz]

Since he will not give Wilder a 3rd fight as per the contract (yeah,yeah, expiration dates ), best to wait than fight a bum.

[Blackstarr]

Did AJ not get knocked out by a nobody? I mean let's be fair and stop being biased. AJ fans made Ruiz a "somebody" because they can't cope with the fact that he got knocked out by someone who was given no chance to defeat AJ. And trying to say Wallin doesn't count for Fury because he's an "unknown quantity" is another one of those have it both ways statements. So the answer is yes all three have struggled with lesser competition, competition they were supposed to beat easily. And if we are actually trying to be objective, all of you say Wilder is not a good boxer, by that standard, Wilder struggling with an opponent is far less consequential than both Fury and AJ. Every single boxer in history has struggled with a lesser opponent. The fact you think neither AJ nor Fury has says more about you than anything else.

How could you compare Ruiz Jr to the likes of Duhaupas, Spzilka, Washington etc.? Ruiz Jr had a great and extensive amateur record, and had already fought for a world title and won that fight in the eyes of more than a few. Are you actually simple?

I say Wallin is an unknown quantity rather than putting him in the same bucket, just because he hasn’t lost to the types of journeymen/gatekeepers that nearly all of Wilder’s opponents have lost to, and hasn’t actually lost to anyone else for that matter. The moment he gets blasted in two by the likes of Chisora (Szipilka), destroyed by Martin (Washington), or soundly outclassed by a a club fighter like Pianeta (Duhaupas), I shall also dismiss him as a nobody.

So again I’ll ask, who has AJ or Fury struggled with that are of the same calibre that Wilder has struggled with? And yes I’d agree that his struggles are less consequential because he’s less skilled. My point has always been that Wilder is an overrated fighter with a horrible record that is probably the worst in HW championship memory - nothing more.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

How could you compare Ruiz Jr to the likes of Duhaupas, Spzilka, Washington etc.? Ruiz Jr had a great and extensive amateur record, and had already fought for a world title and won that fight in the eyes of more than a few. Are you actually simple?

I say Wallin is an unknown quantity rather than putting him in the same bucket, just because he hasn’t lost to the types of journeymen/gatekeepers that nearly all of Wilder’s opponents have lost to, and hasn’t actually lost to anyone else for that matter. The moment he gets blasted in two by the likes of Chisora (Szipilka), destroyed by Martin (Washington), or soundly outclassed by a a club fighter like Pianeta (Duhaupas), I shall also dismiss him as a nobody.

So again I’ll ask, who has AJ or Fury struggled with that are of the same calibre that Wilder has struggled with? And yes I’d agree that his struggles are less consequential because he’s less skilled. My point has always been that Wilder is an overrated fighter with a horrible record that is probably the worst in HW championship memory - nothing more.

The bias is strong with you. Duhaupas had 2 good rounds in the entire fight, many ring side observers felt the corner should have stopped the fight sometime after the 2nd round. That was a pretty easy fight for Wilder, you have revisionist history.

Szpilka it was a competitive fight, but the fight was far less competitive after the fourth. Szpilka only won 2 rounds on 2 score cards and 3 rounds on the other. It was also a fight that saw one of the most vicious knocked outs in history that resulted in Szpilka being taken out in a stretcher.

You see where this is going? Your dislike of Wilder has clouded your ability to judge a fight for what actually happened. A competitive fight turns into a fight where Wilder struggled. A fight where betting odds listed AJ at a -2500 and his opponent a +950, AJ gets knocked out and it's not considered a lost to a nobody because that nobody once fought for a title.

You see, when you're not a blind fan, or a hater of another boxer, its easy to say, Wilder had competitive fights against guys he should have beaten. Then real fans remember that Wilder started boxing at the age of 21 went to the Olympics and turned pro less than a year later. So when I see Wilder struggle and make mistakes against another boxer, its not as bad as AJ getting knocked around by a person he was supposed to handle in Ruiz. Samething goes for Fury and Wallin. Difference between you and I, I'm a fan of all 3.