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[Johnny2x2x]

If Canelo had picked Beterbiev to fight instead, ya'll would be whining about how he's fighting a boxer with only 15 fights who has yet to take on a single top 10 fighter in his division.

Canelo and his fans better get used to this, his whole career is going to be people saying he'd never fight so and so and then he fights them and beats him pivoting to say he ducked someone else to fight so and so.

There were multiple threads years ago about how Canelo would never ever fight Callum Smith or anyone close to him at 168. Now the excuses are starting.

Same thing happened with Mayweather. He'd never take a fight with a young bull like Canelo...He'll never fight Shane Mosely...He'll never fight Pac...He absolutely won't give a rematch to Maidana. Won't fight Cotto at 154... won't answer Marquez's challenge. Etc etc. Then when he fights all those guys and beat them the excuses start. That's how you know Canelo is at the top.

[CharlieStewart]

OK first of all, lets stop with Callum The Best 168 narrative...NO he never proved that over Plant and Benavidez. Lets not forget he walked away from the Benavidez fight for the WBC and Joined The World Boxing Super Series, a Super Series that had a Very Weak Field looking back lets be honest...

WTF have any of these fighters done after this Tournament other than Rob Brant who went back to his real weight 160 and beat Murata at least

However, that has ZERO to do with Canelo, during a damn Pandemic this is a very Credible opponent with a Belt! As for the negativity, Standards always high for the Face of Boxing! You same people crying about the Hate that Canelo gets did the same thing to Mayweather so it just comes with the Territory so put your Big Boy Pants on and Suck and Up and stop being overly emotional on behalf of Canelo. Canelo will be fine and will make a lot of $$$ off the HATE just like Mayweather did!

Canelo has the respect of his PEERS, some of the Top Fighters in boxing today has Canelo #1 P4P and that is more important than the opinion of Bought Boxing Writers/Reporters and Fickle Bias/Fanboy/Emotionally Attached Boxing Fans who doesn't want to give credit to any fighters other than the ones they're fans of and a lot of you IDIOTS are fans of guys for reasons that has NOTHING to do with Boxing Skills so your opinions mean Sh^t

It is a Solid fight during a Pandemic to squeeze in for December to have the Face Of Boxing not go a year without a fight which would be absolutely terrible for the sport of boxing

He walked into a career high earnings as Benavidez should’ve have instead of sniffing his money away!

[sicko]

He walked into a career high earnings as Benavidez should’ve have instead of sniffing his money away!

Totally agree and good luck to him

[Combat Talk Radio]

You're Reaching now! I don't give a sh^t about a fighter losing BUT who you lose to and the the way you lose does somewhat Matter. Now I will say Ryder does look like a Much better fighter now compared to when he lost to Rocky Feilding

First of all you're using triangle logic, which doesn't work.

Second, Callum Smith lost CLOSE. When you lose CLOSE, that's not dominant. It happens to everyone not named Floyd.

Tony Weeks also watched Ward smash Kovalev in the balls repeatedly. Byrd could have waited for the finish

All I said was that Byrd, and Weeks with Crawford/Brook, should actually give fighters a chance.

Weeks DID give Brook a chance. He folded. Just like Ortiz/Collazo - same picture.

Horn got no chance, and it was a questionable stoppage. So if Horn is Crawford's best opponent so far (his words) and he couldn't legit stop that guy, why should I support Crawford getting a 50/50 split against a guy that did THIS to Shawn Porter before dropping him?

[AKAcronym]

If Canelo had picked Beterbiev to fight instead, ya'll would be whining about how he's fighting a boxer with only 15 fights who has yet to take on a single top 10 fighter in his division.

Canelo and his fans better get used to this, his whole career is going to be people saying he'd never fight so and so and then he fights them and beats him pivoting to say he ducked someone else to fight so and so.

There were multiple threads years ago about how Canelo would never ever fight Callum Smith or anyone close to him at 168. Now the excuses are starting.

Same thing happened with Mayweather. He'd never take a fight with a young bull like Canelo...He'll never fight Shane Mosely...He'll never fight Pac...He absolutely won't give a rematch to Maidana. Won't fight Cotto at 154... won't answer Marquez's challenge. Etc etc. Then when he fights all those guys and beat them the excuses start. That's how you know Canelo is at the top.

Ummm...did you not watch his last fight?

[sicko]

First of all you're using triangle logic, which doesn't work.

Second, Callum Smith lost CLOSE. When you lose CLOSE, that's not dominant. It happens to everyone not named Floyd.




All I said was that Byrd, and Weeks with Crawford/Brook, should actually give fighters a chance.

Weeks DID give Brook a chance. He folded. Just like Ortiz/Collazo - same picture.

Horn got no chance, and it was a questionable stoppage. So if Horn is Crawford's best opponent so far (his words) and he couldn't legit stop that guy, why should I support Crawford getting a 50/50 split against a guy that did THIS to Shawn Porter before dropping him?

We're just going in circles, you have your opinion and I have mine and we can Agree to Completely Disagree!

We shall find out how "GOOD" Callum really is vs Canelo December 19th! I have nothing against the man I HOPE I'm completely wrong and he puts up and make it a tough fight and if he can pull the upset then absolutely nothing but respect to him and I will be the 1st Time come on and say I was wrong about Callum and give him all the Praises in the world for his performance!

Now if he comes and get steam rolled then while I will give Canelo his credit 100%. I will also say I was right about him and remind people of how he looked vs Ryder!

[Cobra Curry]

First of all you're using triangle logic, which doesn't work.

Second, Callum Smith lost CLOSE. When you lose CLOSE, that's not dominant. It happens to everyone not named Floyd.




All I said was that Byrd, and Weeks with Crawford/Brook, should actually give fighters a chance.

Weeks DID give Brook a chance. He folded. Just like Ortiz/Collazo - same picture.

Horn got no chance, and it was a questionable stoppage. So if Horn is Crawford's best opponent so far (his words) and he couldn't legit stop that guy, why should I support Crawford getting a 50/50 split against a guy that did THIS to Shawn Porter before dropping him?

Spence scored a flash knockdown on Porter which for me was the difference between winning and losing that fight.

All due respect to Porter if we're nitpicking, he lost to Brook and Thurman, barely squeezed past Ugas and won a vacant title in a close one against the other guy Thurman beat; a bronze medal match of you think about it.

Outside of Porter you have Brook who we've established was damaged goods and Mikey Garcia, a lightweight.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Spence scored a flash knockdown on Porter which for me was the difference between winning and losing that fight.

All due respect to Porter if we're nitpicking, he lost to Brook and Thurman, barely squeezed past Ugas and won a vacant title in a close one against the other guy Thurman beat; a bronze medal match of you think about it.

Outside of Porter you have Brook who we've established was damaged goods and Mikey Garcia, a lightweight.

Meanwhile, as I said, nobody has it easy against Porter. Period. That makes him a very good test.

It's sad that people would rather see Crawford spark the ghost of Kell Brook than see him truly tested against Shawn Porter.

IT's also said that people don't recognize that Fighter A who pulls nearly 400k buys SHOULD get more money than Fighter B who pulls 100k buys.

It's sad that the math is eluding people simply because of the 'eye test'. It really is.

[Robi13]

Well yeah it is/was 3 Other Champions in the Division, it is OF THE OPINION (Not Facts) that he MIGHT BE the Best but no he haven't proven that just yet vs the Rest

Just like I THINK Bivol is the Best at 175 but he haven't fought or beaten Beterbiev yet so I can't definitively say that without seeing that fight first

Fair enough. I think he has the best claim to be the best because of the ring title..

[Cobra Curry]

Meanwhile, as I said, nobody has it easy against Porter. Period. That makes him a very good test.

It's sad that people would rather see Crawford spark the ghost of Kell Brook than see him truly tested against Shawn Porter.

IT's also said that people don't recognize that Fighter A who pulls nearly 400k buys SHOULD get more money than Fighter B who pulls 100k buys.

It's sad that the math is eluding people simply because of the 'eye test'. It really is.

Personally I think it's sad that people would rather Crawford fight anyone but Spence.
Not sure how we got into the subject of purse splits but since we're here it's obvious that Mikey was used to boost the buy rate. Mikey v Crawford would have sold roughly the same. Spence Vs Postol wouldn't have sold well.

The fact is neither man is a PPV star.