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  • whollisboxing
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    #41
    Originally posted by revelated
    Whether there is or isn't a rehydrate clause, it favors Smith. He's huge for the weight.

    Carnelo on paper should struggle with this guy big time.
    Exactly. Callum Smith is far from a cherry pick.

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    • Slicc
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      #42
      Who said Callum's a cherry? That's ****** even by NSB standards...

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        #43
        Originally posted by Slicc
        Who said Callum's a cherry? That's ****** even by NSB standards...
        Damumbass Crawford and Spence fanboys are saying it

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          #44
          Canelo will likely struggle with this guy, I don`t se a stoppage here.

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            #45
            Originally posted by revelated
            He already met his Sconiers (Kavaliauskas), it just took longer.

            Now, we need to see who his Tyson Fury is going to be.
            I see it a little different. Crawford is like prime GGG at middleweight, he looks great against mediocre opposition.

            When he meats his Canelo ( Spence), he will likely lose on cards.

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            • Cobra Curry
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              #46
              Originally posted by revelated

              What Crawford should have done was force a fight with Swift when he was mandatory and he should be chasing a fight with Porter now that he's mandatory. Either guy would help prove or disprove how good Crawford may or may not be.
              This is what's wrong with boxing today. Since when did the champion chase his mandatory challenger? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

              Didn't Danny actually refuse to fight Crawford for the title, only for fans to blame Crawford?

              Danny's father is on camera telling Crawford to "stop bothering PBC fighters" and "go fight your mandatories" yet fans still blame Crawford. How? It's clear that for whatever reason they don't want it.

              As for the pound for pound argument, I'm not huge on it as I don't know enough about the smaller guys but "eye test" has always been part of it. Canelo certainly has the names but he also has an asterix or three.
              I've no problem with those who have Canelo #1 but equally I have no problem if someone felt that Crawford would win a fight between the two if they were the same size.

              It's just opinions at the end of the day.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Slicc
                Who said Callum's a cherry? That's ****** even by NSB standards...
                Don't tell me you don't see the various threads bashing the fight, bro. They're all over the first page.


                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                I see it a little different. Crawford is like prime GGG at middleweight, he looks great against mediocre opposition.

                When he meats his Canelo ( Spence), he will likely lose on cards.
                GGG was never dropped, even unofficially. Probably should have against Derevyanchenko, but Harvey Dock helped him out. Crawford was dropped unofficially against Kavaliauskas.

                GGG has never been on Bambi legs; Crawford has on multiple occasions now as has Wilder.

                GGG has at least went after champions to obtain belts. Crawford just prices himself out and whines about being ducked, same as what Wilder did with AJ.

                GGG had one questionable win - forget which guy it was where G hit him while he was down, Lemieux?

                Wilder's had at least three questionable stoppages (Scott, Washington, Sconiers, and likely more that I can't recall right now) and Crawford around the same amount (Benavidez, Khan's low blow, Horn where he missed the last sequence and now Brook where it might have been a quit job).


                No...I see a LOT of parallels with Wilder and Crawford. The only disconnect is that Wilder knows how to self-promote the brand and convince casuals to buy the fight.



                Originally posted by Cobra Curry
                This is what's wrong with boxing today. Since when did the champion chase his mandatory challenger? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
                Crawford specifically has went after two mandatories. All of a sudden, Swift becomes mandatory and Crawford offers a damaged Khan twice the amount offered to Swift. Okay.


                When I say "go after the mandatory" I'm saying "mando, NAME YOUR PRICE so I can take you out". Not "mando, you're asking too much, we're going another way".

                He let Kell F'n Brook name his price. Ok, so let Porter name HIS price. Let Thurman name HIS price. Based on their RESUME compared to yours.
                Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 11-19-2020, 09:35 AM.

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                • STREET CLEANER
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                  #48
                  In NSB some fans just go by their emotions.

                  To say that Canelo picked an easy fight is just ridiculous especially in this pandemic time. This is way better than that Yildrim guy that they were offering to him.

                  Until all the 168 fight each other there is no real number one but at least you have the potential of having good fights it that division.

                  I used to be critical with Canelo but not anymore.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    Don't tell me you don't see the various threads bashing the fight, bro. They're all over the first page.




                    GGG was never dropped, even unofficially. Probably should have against Derevyanchenko, but Harvey Dock helped him out. Crawford was dropped unofficially against Kavaliauskas.

                    GGG has never been on Bambi legs; Crawford has on multiple occasions now as has Wilder.

                    GGG has at least went after champions to obtain belts. Crawford just prices himself out and whines about being ducked, same as what Wilder did with AJ.

                    GGG had one questionable win - forget which guy it was where G hit him while he was down, Lemieux?

                    Wilder's had at least three questionable stoppages and Crawford around the same amount.


                    No...I see a LOT of parallels with Wilder and Crawford. The only disconnect is that Wilder knows how to self-promote the brand and convince casuals to buy the fight.





                    Crawford specifically has went after two mandatories. All of a sudden, Swift becomes mandatory and Crawford offers a damaged Khan twice the amount offered to Swift. Okay.


                    When I say "go after the mandatory" I'm saying "mando, NAME YOUR PRICE so I can take you out". Not "mando, you're asking too much, we're going another way".

                    He let Kell F'n Brook name his price. Ok, so let Porter name HIS price. Let Thurman name HIS price. Based on their RESUME compared to yours.
                    Thurman asked for 10 million dollars. Kell asked for 2.

                    Khan is globally a more popular name than Garcia, strange as that may sound.

                    Porter is in line to be Crawford's mandatory, let's see if he forces the issue. I doubt he will.

                    Angel Garcia straight up told Crawford to leave the PBC guys alone, "go fight your mandatories". They're not interested.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Cobra Curry
                      Thurman asked for 10 million dollars. Kell asked for 2.
                      Thurman has one loss - to one of the greatest to do it.

                      Thurman was unified WBC/WBA champion.

                      Thurman has wins over Porter and Swift.

                      Thurman's resume drives circles around Crawford's.

                      Thurman at one point was keeping PBC afloat.

                      So let's assume he initially asked for $10 million (that was debunked, by the way).

                      What you SHOULD do is negotiate.

                      Not tell BoMac to run to Twitter whining.

                      Now, explain why Keef doesn't deserve $10 million to fight Crawford, but Crawford somehow deserves $9.5 million to fight Manny BASED ON BOTH GUYS' WELTERWEIGHT RESUMES?

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