Kell Brook: A Casualty of "Daring to be great"

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  • Floyd is TBE
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    #21
    Did him and Khan ever fight each other

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    • Lance98
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      #22
      Eddie hearn never managed this guy properly. Kell brook is a flawed fighter on top of that. You can't be great when you have bad promoters and your boxing skills are mediocre at best. Easier said than done. Not everyone can be floyd. You either play it safe or fall hard trying. If you truly have everything aligned (good promotion, top tier boxing skills and charisma), then you can dare to be great.

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      • The D3vil
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        #23
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Pac dared to be great and he is. It sorts out the wheat from the chaff
        Pac's an ATG. You can't compare him to Pac. Stop

        Originally posted by QballLobo
        He’s been eating off that Porter win for almost a decade.
        Brook was never great. Just another guy.
        He beat Porter more soundly than Thurman or Spence did and Garcia lost to him.

        That was a great win.

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        • QballLobo
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          #24
          Originally posted by The D3vil
          Pac's an ATG. You can't compare him to Pac. Stop



          He beat Porter more soundly than Thurman or Spence did and Garcia lost to him.

          That was a great win.
          C’mon now. Porter is a solid fighter but he’s not some all timer.
          Good win for Brook but that was really his only notable win at the top. He lost every big fight he was in since. His resume is overrated AF.

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          • lopetego
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            #25
            Originally posted by South Champion
            Roy Jones, Broner, and Brook all were ranked on the P4P list and undefeated (Jones had 1 DQ loss). They all tried to jump a division to win a title.

            Win or lose, there's nowhere to go but down from there. Jones should've retired. Broner and Brook should've been more disciplined with their weight.
            Meanwhile, Canelo jumps one and even two divisions and wins titles and KO's top fighters there

            but not everyone can be like Bossnelo. there are levels to this ****.

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            • whollisboxing
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              #26
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              Did Malignaggi suffer the exact same injury against Cotto in the second round? Yes. Did he take a knee and quit? Hell no, he fought his ass off for 10 rounds.

              Did Lebedev take a knee and quit against Guillermo Jones with the worst orbital injury I’ve ever seen? No chance, he fought on until the 11th but was ultimately stopped.

              He was very competitive vs Spence but it was a blatant quit, most humans would do the same (including me), but most fighters wouldn’t, they’d keep fighting.

              FTR I’m not saying he quit vs GGG, his corner stopped that fight not Brook. The GGG fight was not competitive though, he took an absolute beating. How is getting beaten up, to the extent that the towel gets thrown in within only 5 rounds, “being competitive”? That’s lunacy bro...
              Fair enough. Everyone has different levels are for as what they can endure and only he knows what he felt in that moment. Maybe Brook isn’t the toughest fighter ever but he didn’t lay down for a check either.

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                #27
                Originally posted by lopetego
                Meanwhile, Canelo jumps one and even two divisions and wins titles and KO's top fighters there

                but not everyone can be like Bossnelo. there are levels to this ****.
                that was not the same Kovalev that faced Ward lol.. that fight has an asterisk on it. Sergey looked drained and washed. daring to be great is Canelo facing Beterbiev..

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                • lopetego
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bandman
                  that was not the same Kovalev that faced Ward lol.. that fight has an asterisk on it. Sergey looked drained and washed. daring to be great is Canelo facing Beterbiev..
                  Kovalev, even washed up, was still considered the 4th best fighter of the LHW division at worst

                  that's still a very tall order for a fighter who's considered a small MW

                  Canelo is a tweener, too big for JMW, too small for MW

                  yet he is fighting at SMW and even ventured into LHW because his balls of steel

                  but Beterbiev is an even bigger beast who could very well be mauling cruiserweights

                  it'd be a mismatch. "unfair for Canelo" like Bob Arum said

                  but if ginger pulled it off, that'd put him into legendary territory

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                    He had a good career. He made millions , he was a world champ. If he is smart with money, he is safe for the rest of his life. he gave us some good fights and I wish him a good life if he retires.
                    ^^^ this. but also the GGG fight was too much and unnecessary and that immediate drop down in weight didn't help either. He's a good fighter, with very good fundamentals so of course in hindsight fans would've wanted him to remain at welterweight but he had a good career, he didn't duck anyone and like was said, he can retire very early and enjoy his money.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Bandman


                      sometimes boxers need to be saved from themselves. Kell's career got cut short by GGG. theres no doubt in my mind without this fight he would've been an elite welter at this moment. and also he would've beaten Spence too (my opinion.)

                      when daring to be great goes very wrong... Now he has to retire.
                      He didn't dare to be great. He took a huge payday for a beating.

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