Kell Brook: A Casualty of "Daring to be great"

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  • whollisboxing
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    #11
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
    He never dared to be great, he and his step dad dared to cash out.
    And if he had vacated instead of taking the Spence fight we would have accused him of ducking.

    As for the GGG fight, Brook accepted the same offer that Chris Eubank Jr. turned down so does that mean every underdog in a fight is cashing out?

    I could see if he came to lay down in those fights but he gave his best and tried to win each time.

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      #12
      Originally posted by RHETOЯIC
      What about his other orbital bone?

      The one Errol fuсked up.
      Kell was already damaged prior. its like running over roadkill.

      and Crawford just drove over the corpse again. poor Kell.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Bandman
        Kell was already damaged prior. its like running over roadkill.

        and Crawford just drove over the corpse again. poor Kell.
        How?

        GGG damaged the other orbital bone.

        Let's just admit that there is a technical flaw in Kell that is causing him not to be able to get out of the way of punches...

        Because he is still fast...it's his technique that's messing him up.

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          #14
          Originally posted by RHETOЯIC
          How?

          GGG damaged the other orbital bone.

          Let's just admit that there is a technical flaw in Kell that is causing him not to be able to get out of the way of punches...

          Because he is still fast...it's his technique that's messing him up.
          He also had to drop from 160. that GGG mission cut his career short. he beats Spence at full strength.

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          • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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            #15
            Originally posted by whollisboxing
            And if he had vacated instead of taking the Spence fight we would have accused him of ducking.

            As for the GGG fight, Brook accepted the same offer that Chris Eubank Jr. turned down so does that mean every underdog in a fight is cashing out?

            I could see if he came to lay down in those fights but he gave his best and tried to win each time.
            Gave his best? Towel thrown in, in 5 rounds vs GGG. Took a knee and quit against Spence. Got stopped as soon as the first clean punch landed against Crawford. If that’s his best I’d hate to see his worst.

            Anyway man, Brook chose to fight a middleweight in a fight he had no chance in and it was purely for money.

            I know for a fact, that Kell, his stepfather Terry and his team turned down the opportunity to unify against Jessie Vargas in August 2016 as Sky could not find a date for it on PPV due to the scheduled GGG-Eubank Jr fight. The moment Kell and his team realised Eubank had pulled out they saw an opportunity for a £5 million cash grab. It was never about daring for greatness it was about earning money.

            I also know of various other fights in which Terry Brook ruined by making unrealistic financial demands.

            Kell’s whole career post Porter has been like that, C level guys or cash outs. I don’t hold it against him, I think his step father has ruined his career to an extent with all these cash grabs though.

            He should have fought Vargas, Liam Smith, Rios, Bradley etc but Kell Brook and his team continually refused to take any sort of risk unless it was for extortionate amounts. That’s not daring to be great that daring to get paid.

            All this “daring for greatness” is complete bullsh**. It’s a false narrative used by promoters to sell fights in reality.

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              #16
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              Gave his best? Towel thrown in, in 5 rounds vs GGG. Took a knee and quit against Spence. Got stopped as soon as the first clean punch landed against Crawford. If that’s his best I’d hate to see his worst.

              Anyway man, Brook chose to fight a middleweight in a fight he had no chance in and it was purely for money.

              I know for a fact, that Kell, his stepfather Terry and his team turned down the opportunity to unify against Jessie Vargas in August 2016 as Sky could not find a date for it on PPV due to the scheduled GGG-Eubank Jr fight. The moment Kell and his team realised Eubank had pulled out they saw an opportunity for a £5 million cash grab. It was never about daring for greatness it was about earning money.

              I also know of various other fights in which Terry Brook ruined by making unrealistic financial demands.

              Kell’s whole career post Porter has been like that, C level guys or cash outs. I don’t hold it against him, I think his step father has ruined his career to an extent with all these cash grabs though.

              He should have fought Vargas, Liam Smith, Rios, Bradley etc but Kell Brook and his team continually refused to take any sort of risk unless it was for extortionate amounts. That’s not daring to be great that daring to get paid.

              All this “daring for greatness” is complete bullsh**. It’s a false narrative used by promoters to sell fights in reality.
              Ok, let's provide some context. Did Brook not suffer broken orbital bones in both the GGG and Spence fights? Were they not competitive fights for as long as they lasted? You're conveniently leaving out a lot.

              As for the money aspect, a high risk deserves a high reward and it's not like he got paid large sums of money to fight journeymen.
              Last edited by whollisboxing; 11-16-2020, 06:49 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by whollisboxing
                Ok, let's provide some context. Did Brook not suffer broken orbital bones in both the GGG and Spence fights? Were they not competitive fights for as long as they lasted?

                As for the money aspect, a high risk deserves a high reward and it's not like he got paid large sums of money to fight journeymen.
                Did Malignaggi suffer the exact same injury against Cotto in the second round? Yes. Did he take a knee and quit? Hell no, he fought his ass off for 10 rounds.

                Did Lebedev take a knee and quit against Guillermo Jones with the worst orbital injury I’ve ever seen? No chance, he fought on until the 11th but was ultimately stopped.

                He was very competitive vs Spence but it was a blatant quit, most humans would do the same (including me), but most fighters wouldn’t, they’d keep fighting.

                FTR I’m not saying he quit vs GGG, his corner stopped that fight not Brook. The GGG fight was not competitive though, he took an absolute beating. How is getting beaten up, to the extent that the towel gets thrown in within only 5 rounds, “being competitive”? That’s lunacy bro...
                Last edited by RJJ-94-02=GOAT; 11-16-2020, 07:00 PM.

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                  #18
                  Every good fighter that doesnt turn out great will suffer the same fate, they all dare to be great not all make it because they wasnt good enough, life has Prey and Predators.

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                    #19
                    Roy Jones, Broner, and Brook all were ranked on the P4P list and undefeated (Jones had 1 DQ loss). They all tried to jump a division to win a title.

                    Win or lose, there's nowhere to go but down from there. Jones should've retired. Broner and Brook should've been more disciplined with their weight.

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                      #20
                      He’s been eating off that Porter win for almost a decade.
                      Brook was never great. Just another guy.

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