WHY EVERYONE SHOULD CARE ABOUT TANK DAVIS GLOVE SWITCH, It PERTAINS TO WILDER!!!!!!!

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    #11
    Originally posted by SN!PER
    Wilder vs. Fury III

    I guarantee the third fight will turn out very differently.

    Fury may outbox Deontay but he won't stop him. I'll bet everything on it.
    When you gonna change your name back to Deontay Wilder bro?

    One might almost think you're ashamed....

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      #12
      Originally posted by Squared.Circle
      Yawn. Fury embarrassed and dismantled Wilder, with ease, fair and square. Davis' glove change does not lend any credibility to the pathetic conspiracy theories, at all. Just stop.
      That's not what's being discussed/questioned in here but rather the inspection process itself.

      How effective is it when we've had occasions when the gloves are swapped after the member from the other team has left following the initial inspection? We saw it during Tank-LSC and it happened with Whyte-Rivas.

      Maybe the process should be scrutinized more closely when we've seen fighters enter the ring with a different pair of gloves on than the ones approved by the other team (without them being notified).
      Last edited by 786; 11-06-2020, 09:57 AM.

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        #13
        There are some major flaws in this theory.

        The back up gloves are retained by the commission after the first choice gloves are laced up. The gloves can only be swapped in the presence of supervising officials from the commission and the sanctioning bodies whose belts are being contested.

        After supervising the wrapping and gloving up processes, the commission and sanctioning body officials remain with the fighters, in their dressing rooms, until they leave for the ring.

        After the fight, the gloves can only be removed in the presence of a supervising official, and they must then be handed over immediately so that they can be checked again for signs of tampering, egg weights, horse shoes, whatever.

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          #14
          Originally posted by denium
          When you gonna change your name back to Deontay Wilder bro?

          One might almost think you're ashamed....
          Still in The Bronze Bomber's corner. The new name is inspired by Deontay's fighting style because he is a sniper with that right hand. But you know what, since you and a few others seem to miss DW I think I'll bring him back to BoxingScene once the trilogy fight is officially announced.

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            #15
            Originally posted by TheBoxGod
            THIS IS A LONG READ, ONLY SERIOUS POSTER NEED JOIN. This is to expose the incompetence of the Boxing Commission more-so than attack a particular fighter.

            TEAM LSC Inspecting/Watching for 1st version of gloves


            No TEAM LSC to Inspecting/Watching for 2nd version of gloves


            First off we are not debating the gloves. What we care about is the process that took place when they switched gloves.

            Tank Davis putting on another pair of gloves is not an issue, the fighters pick 2 pairs of gloves at the selection table the day prior. The pair they want and a back up pair incase for whatever reason they no longer want to wear the first pair.

            This is what appeared to happened, the motives are up in the air as to why but theirs inherently nothing really out of the ordinary with that particular situation.

            The issue I have is that LSC team was not notified and was not able to oversee this process of them putting on, taping off and signing off on the Version 2/Back-up gloves. Basically Team Tank got to glove up without Team LSC inspecting it, reasons its wrong is because you're allowed to inspect it and Team LSC did elect to do this for the 1st version. The 1st version Team LSC had a representative in there watching them wrap, glove up and the commissioner sign off on the first pair. Team LSC representative saw no issues and left and then Team Tank switched out to the 2nd version and Team LSC representative was not notified to come RE-inspect that process.

            So basically Team Tank put on a fake show for the Team LSC to inspect and approve and when Team LSC representative left they gloved up the real pair/the real way they really wanted without Team LSC approval. Thats how you can look at it and this is why boxing allows the opposite corner to inspect this process, for a fighters safety. Team Tank is a conflict of interest, the commissioner can be compromised/incompetent, so the fail-safe is your own team-mate to inspect the gloves and object to issues. Its a vital important process.

            Imagine if Margarito gloved up in front of Brother ****m Richardson normally with no "bricks" and nothing foul and so theirs nothing to contest so Brother ****m Richardson approves it and leaves, but when he leaves Margarito decided "he didn't like the first pair of gloves" so he switches the gloves and without notifying Brother ****m Richardson/team Mosley he (Margarito) re-gloves without oversight from Brother ****m Richardson and comes into the fight with Who-Knows-What in his gloves. This is why this is a very important process. This is why you, me and everyone should be weary with how nonchalant people in the industry are taking this.

            Here is a video demonstrating the importance of this process, Vital Klitschko catch Mariusz Wach with a bad pair of gloves with the padding missing that the commissioner was overseeing and was allowing Wach to glove up with, it wasn't till Vital Klitschko contested it that the commissioner was aware that the gloves weren't right.



            Imagine if Mariusz Wach decided to glove up the good pair first and Vital Klitschko approves it and leaves then Wach decides he wants to conveniently switch to the other pair that are presummed tampered with and no one notifies Vital Klitschko to come inspect them?

            Now proving moreso how flaky and incompetent the commissioners are, you guys remember Maidana gloves that were approved by the commissioner? and Floyd Mayweather had to pay 2 million so Maidana would wear different gloves?

            These are it.


            Now imagine Marcos Maidana shows up with regular gloves and Floyd Mayweather doesn't object, and when its time to inspect the process Team Madiana puts on a show to get Team Mayweather to approve the gloves/wraps with the dummy pair and when Team Mayweather representative leaves that when team Maidana decides to switch gloves and whip these subpar versions out? The commissioner would see nothing wrong with it and with no Team Mayweather oversight to say otherwise, Maidana would have walked into the ring with these subpar gloves. This is why you are supposed to notify the opposite team so they can come back and re-inspect. (keep in mind this is NSAC the best Boxing Commission in the sport)


            Now to Wilder and the Fury Gloves Allegations.



            Do we know if Fury Cheated? No

            But do we know he didn't switch out his gloves after a Wilder Representative left? NO (remember they covered the cameras)

            So could Fury have used this same technique of waiting till the other team representative leaves than switch out the gloves so you have no oversight over the new gloves?

            This is why this process is so important and shouldn't be skirted and brushed off like it is by many people in the boxing world, like it is by many boxing reporters, Everyone keeps saying the gloves were approved by the commission but I just proved how that doesn't mean anything in this sport. The fighter needs his representative in there at all time when they are tampering, wrapping, taping, lacing the gloves because its for their own safety and security.

            The Boxing Commissions should be held accountable for a lapse in proper protocol or a lack of proper protocol, the WBC should be held accountable for not having their own representative in there to be assured the fight goes on without any incidents that brings the event integrity into question (what are you getting fees for? if you can't even do that?).
            The Klit Bros promoted their own shows and were notorious control freaks who used their power to play mind games and unsettle opponents before fights.

            Maybe you weren't following boxing when Fury fought Wlad in Germany, but Team Fury threatened to walk and call in their lawyers in disputes over back up gloves and various other issues..

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              #16
              People just need to write LSC for what he was. He was a protected fighter with an over inflated career. He was an 8 to 1 underdog with not much power at 122 and 126lb much less 130. It was the 3rd time he stepped up in his career and 2xs he fought the same guy; he went 1-2.

              Gloves aside, LSC made his $. There's been tons of boxers with more talent that never got the LSC treatment.

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                #17
                Originally posted by TheBoxGod
                THIS IS A LONG READ, ONLY SERIOUS POSTER NEED JOIN. This is to expose the incompetence of the Boxing Commission more-so than attack a particular fighter.

                TEAM LSC Inspecting/Watching for 1st version of gloves


                No TEAM LSC to Inspecting/Watching for 2nd version of gloves


                First off we are not debating the gloves. What we care about is the process that took place when they switched gloves.

                Tank Davis putting on another pair of gloves is not an issue, the fighters pick 2 pairs of gloves at the selection table the day prior. The pair they want and a back up pair incase for whatever reason they no longer want to wear the first pair.

                This is what appeared to happened, the motives are up in the air as to why but theirs inherently nothing really out of the ordinary with that particular situation.

                The issue I have is that LSC team was not notified and was not able to oversee this process of them putting on, taping off and signing off on the Version 2/Back-up gloves. Basically Team Tank got to glove up without Team LSC inspecting it, reasons its wrong is because you're allowed to inspect it and Team LSC did elect to do this for the 1st version. The 1st version Team LSC had a representative in there watching them wrap, glove up and the commissioner sign off on the first pair. Team LSC representative saw no issues and left and then Team Tank switched out to the 2nd version and Team LSC representative was not notified to come RE-inspect that process.

                So basically Team Tank put on a fake show for the Team LSC to inspect and approve and when Team LSC representative left they gloved up the real pair/the real way they really wanted without Team LSC approval. Thats how you can look at it and this is why boxing allows the opposite corner to inspect this process, for a fighters safety. Team Tank is a conflict of interest, the commissioner can be compromised/incompetent, so the fail-safe is your own team-mate to inspect the gloves and object to issues. Its a vital important process.

                Imagine if Margarito gloved up in front of Brother ****m Richardson normally with no "bricks" and nothing foul and so theirs nothing to contest so Brother ****m Richardson approves it and leaves, but when he leaves Margarito decided "he didn't like the first pair of gloves" so he switches the gloves and without notifying Brother ****m Richardson/team Mosley he (Margarito) re-gloves without oversight from Brother ****m Richardson and comes into the fight with Who-Knows-What in his gloves. This is why this is a very important process. This is why you, me and everyone should be weary with how nonchalant people in the industry are taking this.

                Here is a video demonstrating the importance of this process, Vital Klitschko catch Mariusz Wach with a bad pair of gloves with the padding missing that the commissioner was overseeing and was allowing Wach to glove up with, it wasn't till Vital Klitschko contested it that the commissioner was aware that the gloves weren't right.



                Imagine if Mariusz Wach decided to glove up the good pair first and Vital Klitschko approves it and leaves then Wach decides he wants to conveniently switch to the other pair that are presummed tampered with and no one notifies Vital Klitschko to come inspect them?

                Now proving moreso how flaky and incompetent the commissioners are, you guys remember Maidana gloves that were approved by the commissioner? and Floyd Mayweather had to pay 2 million so Maidana would wear different gloves?

                These are it.


                Now imagine Marcos Maidana shows up with regular gloves and Floyd Mayweather doesn't object, and when its time to inspect the process Team Madiana puts on a show to get Team Mayweather to approve the gloves/wraps with the dummy pair and when Team Mayweather representative leaves that when team Maidana decides to switch gloves and whip these subpar versions out? The commissioner would see nothing wrong with it and with no Team Mayweather oversight to say otherwise, Maidana would have walked into the ring with these subpar gloves. This is why you are supposed to notify the opposite team so they can come back and re-inspect. (keep in mind this is NSAC the best Boxing Commission in the sport)


                Now to Wilder and the Fury Gloves Allegations.



                Do we know if Fury Cheated? No

                But do we know he didn't switch out his gloves after a Wilder Representative left? NO (remember they covered the cameras)

                So could Fury have used this same technique of waiting till the other team representative leaves than switch out the gloves so you have no oversight over the new gloves?

                This is why this process is so important and shouldn't be skirted and brushed off like it is by many people in the boxing world, like it is by many boxing reporters, Everyone keeps saying the gloves were approved by the commission but I just proved how that doesn't mean anything in this sport. The fighter needs his representative in there at all time when they are tampering, wrapping, taping, lacing the gloves because its for their own safety and security.

                The Boxing Commissions should be held accountable for a lapse in proper protocol or a lack of proper protocol, the WBC should be held accountable for not having their own representative in there to be assured the fight goes on without any incidents that brings the event integrity into question (what are you getting fees for? if you can't even do that?).
                Good post.

                Tank can get away with anything as he's with Floyd. And Floyd is deep with the PTB. Find out what "G" really means.

                And it leads to Wilder-Fury as Fury is deep with the PTB also. And has gotten away with so much ish.

                And contrast Wilders "To this Day!" with Floyd's Just worship money, not Justice...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SN!PER
                  Still in The Bronze Bomber's corner. The new name is inspired by Deontay's fighting style because he is a sniper with that right hand. But you know what, since you and a few others seem to miss DW I think I'll bring him back to BoxingScene once the trilogy fight is officially announced.
                  I don't think Wilder will ever fight again. He won't want to face the questions he would be asked about all the crazy crap he's been coming out with lately.

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                    #19
                    Fury covered the camera but there was still cameras and officials in the room and there's footage here or Hill putting on Fury's left glove


                    https://********/vfYIpQ8lvtA

                    Also Usyk and Delboy both covered their cameras last Saturday 🤷*♂️

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 786
                      That's not what's being discussed/questioned in here but rather the inspection process itself.

                      How effective is it when we've had occasions when the gloves are swapped after the member from the other team has left following the initial inspection? We saw it during Tank-LSC and it happened with Whyte-Rivas.

                      Maybe the process should be scrutinized more closely when we've seen fighters enter the ring with a different pair of gloves on than the ones approved by the other team (without them being notified).

                      You're missing out an important fact here.

                      Fighters have multiple pairs of gloves approved and pick one for the night. Fury and Tank are guilty of nothing

                      However Whyte used a pair which wasn't in the selection approved by Rivas' team and team Rivas weren't allowed bro check the gloves. Literally

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