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  • TheBoxGod
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    WHY EVERYONE SHOULD CARE ABOUT TANK DAVIS GLOVE SWITCH, It PERTAINS TO WILDER!!!!!!!

    THIS IS A LONG READ, ONLY SERIOUS POSTER NEED JOIN. This is to expose the incompetence of the Boxing Commission more-so than attack a particular fighter.

    TEAM LSC Inspecting/Watching for 1st version of gloves


    No TEAM LSC to Inspecting/Watching for 2nd version of gloves


    First off we are not debating the gloves. What we care about is the process that took place when they switched gloves.

    Tank Davis putting on another pair of gloves is not an issue, the fighters pick 2 pairs of gloves at the selection table the day prior. The pair they want and a back up pair incase for whatever reason they no longer want to wear the first pair.

    This is what appeared to happened, the motives are up in the air as to why but theirs inherently nothing really out of the ordinary with that particular situation.

    The issue I have is that LSC team was not notified and was not able to oversee this process of them putting on, taping off and signing off on the Version 2/Back-up gloves. Basically Team Tank got to glove up without Team LSC inspecting it, reasons its wrong is because you're allowed to inspect it and Team LSC did elect to do this for the 1st version. The 1st version Team LSC had a representative in there watching them wrap, glove up and the commissioner sign off on the first pair. Team LSC representative saw no issues and left and then Team Tank switched out to the 2nd version and Team LSC representative was not notified to come RE-inspect that process.

    So basically Team Tank put on a fake show for the Team LSC to inspect and approve and when Team LSC representative left they gloved up the real pair/the real way they really wanted without Team LSC approval. Thats how you can look at it and this is why boxing allows the opposite corner to inspect this process, for a fighters safety. Team Tank is a conflict of interest, the commissioner can be compromised/incompetent, so the fail-safe is your own team-mate to inspect the gloves and object to issues. Its a vital important process.

    Imagine if Margarito gloved up in front of Brother ****m Richardson normally with no "bricks" and nothing foul and so theirs nothing to contest so Brother ****m Richardson approves it and leaves, but when he leaves Margarito decided "he didn't like the first pair of gloves" so he switches the gloves and without notifying Brother ****m Richardson/team Mosley he (Margarito) re-gloves without oversight from Brother ****m Richardson and comes into the fight with Who-Knows-What in his gloves. This is why this is a very important process. This is why you, me and everyone should be weary with how nonchalant people in the industry are taking this.

    Here is a video demonstrating the importance of this process, Vital Klitschko catch Mariusz Wach with a bad pair of gloves with the padding missing that the commissioner was overseeing and was allowing Wach to glove up with, it wasn't till Vital Klitschko contested it that the commissioner was aware that the gloves weren't right.



    Imagine if Mariusz Wach decided to glove up the good pair first and Vital Klitschko approves it and leaves then Wach decides he wants to conveniently switch to the other pair that are presummed tampered with and no one notifies Vital Klitschko to come inspect them?

    Now proving moreso how flaky and incompetent the commissioners are, you guys remember Maidana gloves that were approved by the commissioner? and Floyd Mayweather had to pay 2 million so Maidana would wear different gloves?

    These are it.


    Now imagine Marcos Maidana shows up with regular gloves and Floyd Mayweather doesn't object, and when its time to inspect the process Team Madiana puts on a show to get Team Mayweather to approve the gloves/wraps with the dummy pair and when Team Mayweather representative leaves that when team Maidana decides to switch gloves and whip these subpar versions out? The commissioner would see nothing wrong with it and with no Team Mayweather oversight to say otherwise, Maidana would have walked into the ring with these subpar gloves. This is why you are supposed to notify the opposite team so they can come back and re-inspect. (keep in mind this is NSAC the best Boxing Commission in the sport)


    Now to Wilder and the Fury Gloves Allegations.



    Do we know if Fury Cheated? No

    But do we know he didn't switch out his gloves after a Wilder Representative left? NO (remember they covered the cameras)

    So could Fury have used this same technique of waiting till the other team representative leaves than switch out the gloves so you have no oversight over the new gloves?

    This is why this process is so important and shouldn't be skirted and brushed off like it is by many people in the boxing world, like it is by many boxing reporters, Everyone keeps saying the gloves were approved by the commission but I just proved how that doesn't mean anything in this sport. The fighter needs his representative in there at all time when they are tampering, wrapping, taping, lacing the gloves because its for their own safety and security.

    The Boxing Commissions should be held accountable for a lapse in proper protocol or a lack of proper protocol, the WBC should be held accountable for not having their own representative in there to be assured the fight goes on without any incidents that brings the event integrity into question (what are you getting fees for? if you can't even do that?).
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    Can’t read it all but got the gist and you bring up good points. It’s su****ious, but we simply don’t know. Someone should interview LSC and co. for their opinions. For all the help that’ll do.

    But yea. The officials are very lax and it’s usually the fighter’s teams that really keep things in check, since they actually have to care about this sort of thing.
    Last edited by SplitSecond; 11-06-2020, 07:31 AM.

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    • Ray*
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      Team LSC haven't said anything so far, no one has come out and said anything on why the gloves were changed. I don't want to speculate and give air to something that might not need to breathe. We all know the whole Wilder thing was coming from sore loser and the uneducated ones. Let's see with this one.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        Originally posted by Ray*
        Team LSC haven't said anything so far, no one has come out and said anything on why the gloves were changed. I don't want to speculate and give air to something that might not need to breathe. We all know the whole Wilder thing was coming from sore loser and the uneducated ones. Let's see with this one.
        Cmon Ray. Why would LSC even question Al Haymon’s Leader in TMT for the PBC in house event. LSC is a good guy, loyal, but he’s naive. Haymon has done so much for him and his family he wouldn’t dare question anything nor is it in his character, which is a bit careless. Though keep in mind LSC is at the tail end of his career and has no vague idea that TMT needed to win this fight at all costs given that the economics with boxing are horrible. If it’s an all in-house, non conflicting promotional event, then TMT can easily control everything, even making sure fans and affiliates say “LSC said it was ok...” ffs..

        Wilder’s legion and religion said the commission had done some tampering... so surely fans aren’t allowed to speculate against a TMT show? It doesn’t even matter if an inspector is signing gloves... we don’t know if or when those white gloves had been tampered with. The video starts with them putting the new ones on...

        Remember Povetkin‘s team wanted to fully inspect Whyte’s gloves before entering the ring because of the Rivas incident. Those were opposing teams, promoters. PBC is all in-house..

        Floyd likes to win. His ego won’t allow Tank to lose. Remember Floyd came last minute via Haymon advising to change the contract with Marquez from 144 to 146. So why wouldn’t Floyd pull something to secure his investment with Tank?
        Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 11-06-2020, 08:06 AM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by TheBoxGod
          THIS IS A LONG READ, ONLY SERIOUS POSTER NEED JOIN. This is to expose the incompetence of the Boxing Commission more-so than attack a particular fighter.

          TEAM LSC Inspecting/Watching for 1st version of gloves


          No TEAM LSC to Inspecting/Watching for 2nd version of gloves


          First off we are not debating the gloves. What we care about is the process that took place when they switched gloves.

          Tank Davis putting on another pair of gloves is not an issue, the fighters pick 2 pairs of gloves at the selection table the day prior. The pair they want and a back up pair incase for whatever reason they no longer want to wear the first pair.

          This is what appeared to happened, the motives are up in the air as to why but theirs inherently nothing really out of the ordinary with that particular situation.

          The issue I have is that LSC team was not notified and was not able to oversee this process of them putting on, taping off and signing off on the Version 2/Back-up gloves. Basically Team Tank got to glove up without Team LSC inspecting it, reasons its wrong is because you're allowed to inspect it and Team LSC did elect to do this for the 1st version. The 1st version Team LSC had a representative in there watching them wrap, glove up and the commissioner sign off on the first pair. Team LSC representative saw no issues and left and then Team Tank switched out to the 2nd version and Team LSC representative was not notified to come RE-inspect that process.

          So basically Team Tank put on a fake show for the Team LSC to inspect and approve and when Team LSC representative left they gloved up the real pair/the real way they really wanted without Team LSC approval. Thats how you can look at it and this is why boxing allows the opposite corner to inspect this process, for a fighters safety. Team Tank is a conflict of interest, the commissioner can be compromised/incompetent, so the fail-safe is your own team-mate to inspect the gloves and object to issues. Its a vital important process.

          Imagine if Margarito gloved up in front of Brother ****m Richardson normally with no "bricks" and nothing foul and so theirs nothing to contest so Brother ****m Richardson approves it and leaves, but when he leaves Margarito decided "he didn't like the first pair of gloves" so he switches the gloves and without notifying Brother ****m Richardson/team Mosley he (Margarito) re-gloves without oversight from Brother ****m Richardson and comes into the fight with Who-Knows-What in his gloves. This is why this is a very important process. This is why you, me and everyone should be weary with how nonchalant people in the industry are taking this.

          Here is a video demonstrating the importance of this process, Vital Klitschko catch Mariusz Wach with a bad pair of gloves with the padding missing that the commissioner was overseeing and was allowing Wach to glove up with, it wasn't till Vital Klitschko contested it that the commissioner was aware that the gloves weren't right.



          Imagine if Mariusz Wach decided to glove up the good pair first and Vital Klitschko approves it and leaves then Wach decides he wants to conveniently switch to the other pair that are presummed tampered with and no one notifies Vital Klitschko to come inspect them?

          Now proving moreso how flaky and incompetent the commissioners are, you guys remember Maidana gloves that were approved by the commissioner? and Floyd Mayweather had to pay 2 million so Maidana would wear different gloves?

          These are it.


          Now imagine Marcos Maidana shows up with regular gloves and Floyd Mayweather doesn't object, and when its time to inspect the process Team Madiana puts on a show to get Team Mayweather to approve the gloves/wraps with the dummy pair and when Team Mayweather representative leaves that when team Maidana decides to switch gloves and whip these subpar versions out? The commissioner would see nothing wrong with it and with no Team Mayweather oversight to say otherwise, Maidana would have walked into the ring with these subpar gloves. This is why you are supposed to notify the opposite team so they can come back and re-inspect. (keep in mind this is NSAC the best Boxing Commission in the sport)


          Now to Wilder and the Fury Gloves Allegations.



          Do we know if Fury Cheated? No

          But do we know he didn't switch out his gloves after a Wilder Representative left? NO (remember they covered the cameras)

          So could Fury have used this same technique of waiting till the other team representative leaves than switch out the gloves so you have no oversight over the new gloves?

          This is why this process is so important and shouldn't be skirted and brushed off like it is by many people in the boxing world, like it is by many boxing reporters, Everyone keeps saying the gloves were approved by the commission but I just proved how that doesn't mean anything in this sport. The fighter needs his representative in there at all time when they are tampering, wrapping, taping, lacing the gloves because its for their own safety and security.

          The Boxing Commissions should be held accountable for a lapse in proper protocol or a lack of proper protocol, the WBC should be held accountable for not having their own representative in there to be assured the fight goes on without any incidents that brings the event integrity into question (what are you getting fees for? if you can't even do that?).
          Good stuff boss man. Fans don’t realize the nature of in-house events. LSC just played the part while Haymon allowed TMT to run the whole show

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          • rudy
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            I would not wast my time reading something for a guy who just joined in October 202. Get out of here

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              Originally posted by rudy
              I would not wast my time reading something for a guy who just joined in October 202. Get out of here
              I didn’t read anything as well. Though he provided a video with Vitali looking out for his brother regarding Grant’s custom gloves made for McGirt and Wach... did Vitali have the right to be skeptic with the commission there feeling the padding and listening to Vitali? Such safety protocols happen if an opposing team is skeptic. Again suddenly you guys just forgot about the Whyte/Rivas/Povetkin situation?

              Tank Davis and his team said his initial Grant’s were “too big” and after switching Floyd instigates the situation with Tank’s team saying “these are better.” How could any other team member make an opinion to Tank’s smaller hands and wraps to themselves? Lol

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                Yawn. Fury embarrassed and dismantled Wilder, with ease, fair and square. Davis' glove change does not lend any credibility to the pathetic conspiracy theories, at all. Just stop.

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                  LSC does not give a ****, bro

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                    Wilder vs. Fury III

                    I guarantee the third fight will turn out very differently.

                    Fury may outbox Deontay but he won't stop him. I'll bet everything on it.

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