Should Mark Breland sue Deontay Wilder?

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  • sicko
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    #31
    Originally posted by TheBoxGod
    not really how that works.

    Tons of herbal supplements you can buy over the counter that will give you a sedative effect that wont show up on any drug testing because they arent really drugs or ped's.
    True! I know Ashwagandha can do that to you if you take too much so good point

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #32
      noone takes what bumsquad says seriously, hes a laughing stock, when he talks people start laughing.

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      • Ray*
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        #33
        Originally posted by TheBoxGod
        but hes allegeding that breland slipped something into his drink, so brelanded wouldnt put that on the forms lol.

        and a post fight drug test wont find herbal supplements because they dont test for it because they arent considers drugs nor peds.
        The post fight test would show everything. The test isn’t just looking for PED. Got to VADA website and read up on this.

        So if Breland spiked his water then it should or would show up, the fact is the guy is having PSTD. He was already delusional before the fight, he was the one who thought he deserves 50 percent of a AJ fight when their income is night and day.

        He was the one who said he wanted to get pregnant etc so anyone taking his words as gospel really need to get their life in shape (Mentally).

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        • TheMyspaceDayz
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          #34
          Wilder has 695K followers on Twitter. 1 in 100 people are schizophrenic. This means that Wilder might have convinced upward of 6,950 potentially dangerous schizos that Breland poisoned their hero. Sue the ass off this dumb fuck.
          Last edited by TheMyspaceDayz; 11-04-2020, 03:17 PM.

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          • Legends456
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            #35
            Saying Breland messed up and went against his instructions not to throw the towel is one thing.

            Suggesting he drugged his own fighter is an entirely different ballgame.

            I’d definitely sue if I were Breland.

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            • TheBoxGod
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              #36
              Originally posted by Ray*
              The post fight test would show everything. The test isn’t just looking for PED. Got to VADA website and read up on this.

              So if Breland spiked his water then it should or would show up, the fact is the guy is having PSTD. He was already delusional before the fight, he was the one who thought he deserves 50 percent of a AJ fight when their income is night and day.

              He was the one who said he wanted to get pregnant etc so anyone taking his words as gospel really need to get their life in shape (Mentally).
              they dont test for everything because they cant.

              They only test for KNOWN substances that they deem drugs or PEDS.
              *https://vada-testing.org/downloads/p...bited-List.pdf

              Herbal supplements dont make that list, so if breland did spike his water a vada test wont show that.

              The way testing works is the testing lab is provided a list of substances to check for by whoever is soliciting their services; So in this case Vada and this is the prohibited list* and thats the only thing they look for, they cant look for everything because its impossible. You do not get a complete list of substances someone took lol, they break down the blood by ng/l of certain markers that are vital in identifying any of the offending substances in the banned substance list that they are provided... So if Breland spiked Wilder water say with something like Ashwagandha** it wouldn't show up in the Vada lab test.

              *https://vada-testing.org/downloads/p...bited-List.pdf
              **This is just an example not saying this is what it was.
              Last edited by TheBoxGod; 11-04-2020, 04:54 AM.

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              • Ray*
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                #37
                Originally posted by TheBoxGod
                they dont test for everything because they cant.

                They only test for KNOWN substances that they deem drugs or PEDS.
                *https://vada-testing.org/downloads/p...bited-List.pdf

                Herbal supplements dont make that list, so if breland did spike his water a vada test wont show that.

                The way testing works is the testing lab is provided a list of substances to check for by whoever is soliciting their services; So in this case Vada and this is the prohibited list* and thats the only thing they look for, they cant look for everything because its impossible. You do not get a complete list of substances someone took lol, they break down the blood by ng/l of certain markers that are vital in identifying any of the offending substances in the banned substance list that they are provided... So if Breland spiked Wilder water say with something like Ashwagandha** it wouldn't show up in the Vada lab test.

                *https://vada-testing.org/downloads/p...bited-List.pdf
                **This is just an example not saying this is what it was.
                Herbal supplements wouldn’t show on the list because they don’t have the sort of effect a PED would.

                If he was slipped a herbal supplements as you put it, and it causes him a sedative effect then it would show up on his post fight drug test.

                The herbal meds would not just come in, do it’s job at that precise moment and then disappears before the test.

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                • TheBoxGod
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Herbal supplements wouldn’t show on the list because they don’t have the sort of effect a PED would.

                  If he was slipped a herbal supplements as you put it, and it causes him a sedative effect then it would show up on his post fight drug test.

                  The herbal meds would not just come in, do it’s job at that precise moment and then disappears before the test.
                  Herbal supplements wont show cause they dont test for it.

                  I explained to you how the process works. Labatories are a independent contractor. They sell their services of testing to whoever wants to buy this service, but they only look for what they are told to look for i.e the prohibited banned substance list. Example Floyd Mayweather test results. https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/cho...scan__1.0.jpeg https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/cho...scan__2.0.jpeg

                  Notice how they only list certain items that just so happen to match the banned list and nothing more (SHOCKER HUH), thats because that was the only job they were hired to do. They were not hired to look beyond the scope of the banned list, that is not their job.

                  Simple terms;

                  Vada buys this service,
                  Vada provides the prohibited list to the laboratory they hired.
                  Vada provides the samples to test


                  The laboratory test the samples then gives vada a lab test results with the list of banned substance that are on the provided banned substance list and state whether any substances on that list was detected or not, and if detected they list the amount i.e. ng/l, ratios, etc


                  So thats that, now you have been schooled on how drug testing works so you can never bask in your ignorance again... in this matter atleast.

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                  • 'b'
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Marchegiano
                    Poor people seem to think suing is always an option.
                    I'm suing you for offending poor people. My lawyers will be in contact with you shortly.

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                    • Mmann2e
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                      #40
                      In order for Breland to win he needs to show Deontays comments caused a lost of revenue which will be hard to prove in 6 months, also Deontay could countersuit claiming not only Mark Breland went against orders and his wishes but damaged his business because as Deontay claimed he needs to be great for 1 second or some bull****. So Deontay can claim that by Breland throwing the towel he damaged Deontay Wilder's business. The case would be dragged out for years before a settlement and it's not clear Breland would have the money to continue to battle.

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