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  • blowblow
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    #51
    Originally posted by Roadblock
    Why dont you point out the flaws so you can show how much you know in boxing .
    so getting hit and almost knockdown by mosley, maidana, pac, castillo etc is still no flaws? even SRR or the best boxer out there had some flaws. i sense too much love for papa floyd here hahaha.. i understand you mate don't worry.

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    • Roadblock
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      #52
      Originally posted by blowblow
      so getting hit and almost knockdown by mosley, maidana, pac, castillo etc is still no flaws? even SRR or the best boxer out there had some flaws. i sense too much love for papa floyd here hahaha.. i understand you mate don't worry.
      Are you for real , a pro fighter gets hit and he got hit less to the point many say he was greatest defensive fighter ever.

      If thats you show of flaws best you dont tell people they dont know boxing .

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      • jack_the_rippuh
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        #53
        I'd say Floyd. He could do it from both offense and defense and he also had technical ability to back his athleticism. Roy only had athleticism.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Roadblock
          Are you for real , a pro fighter gets hit and he got hit less to the point many say he was greatest defensive fighter ever.

          If thats you show of flaws best you dont tell people they dont know boxing .
          boxing is about hit or getting hit. if floyd is perfect like you always said. then i doubt he dont even have any contorversial win against a couple of opponents. i understand you still.

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            #55
            Roy was better at certain things. Floyd was better at a wider range of things.

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              #56
              Originally posted by el***
              Jones wasnt technically sound, he just got away with it based on his style. He kept his hands low to bait counters and when he got to mid 30s and his reflexes faded he couldnt keep up anymore. He also always had a weakness for inside fighting and fighting off the ropes but his speed and footwork kept him from it being too big a problem when he was young.

              people like to take "not techincally sound" to mean no ring IQ. no, jones had ring IQ and knew how to bait his opponents, he chose to take a higher risk style and never developed other defensive habits, upper body movement is a defense but he was unconventional, didnt develop a conventional defense and that hurt him when he aged.


              Floyds hands were well documented, he fought 1/3 or more of a fight south paw early on after hurting his hand. His only official knockdown is from hurting his hand. He showed his hands multiple times after fights, on 24/7, he gets TUEs for lidocane injections, the history is well known and documented. You can go look it all up you havent been paying attention.
              I don't exactly agree with you, but no matter. He deliberately fought with his hands down so as to confuse the opponent which punch/hand he'd use. Also he LIKED fighting off the ropes, and often enticed opponents in, so that he could blaze away with uppercuts and etc.

              As for Mayweather and his hands, I care nothing, but I never saw any of the items you mention. I know he got Lidocaine injections sometimes before fights. Legal because it was a Mayweather fix, or illegal, I don't know and care less. I just don't like him, his sty le, his cherry picking and the way he ****** Corrales in, when Corrales was not only destitute but going to a 2 year jail sentence, as well as being so overweight that he spent 12 days straight in the sweatbox; his body just rejected weight loss. Plus was 10 lbs over the morning of the fight and sweated himself to the bone .and had to be HELPED to walk to the scales.......Because he needed the money to pay the lawyers. He appeared in a special video before the fight was asked why...? and he explained it all. Did no training at all. Larry Merchant remarked that on going past Corrales' dressing room before the fight "there he was scoffing down a HUGE Burger..." His trainer complained that Corrales spent all his time when not in the sweatbox, in his hotel room playing with a Gameboy.

              Since then, Mayweather is abhorrent to me, especially since he boasts it was his best fight.
              It wasn't a fight at all.

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                #57
                Originally posted by blowblow
                boxing is about hit or getting hit. if floyd is perfect like you always said. then i doubt he dont even have any contorversial win against a couple of opponents. i understand you still.
                Stop arguing like a school girl playing word games, if Floyd has flawed boxing name the parts that are flawed otherwise go away, its not hard kid, along your line of comments means everybody like Manny that has been stopped and beat are flawed to hell.

                I will even make it easier for you, there is foot work, distance, kit of punches, ring IQ, hand speed, power, stamina, reach, durability, technique, discipline and dedication these are all the attributes that make up a fighter, every area can be broken down from 1 to 10.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by lolpz
                  Floyd was ducked by every top fighter at 130 and 135 pretty much....shows how little you know.

                  Was ducked at 140 by Kosta Tzyu as well.

                  It wasn’t until Floyd got to 147 and 154 where he picked certain guys, and that was because he was after the biggest paychecks at that point due to fighting much bigger guys and his hand problems becoming major.
                  This could not have been so, he fought and beat the champion, earning his No.! spot by beating other top contenders. Look it up.

                  Kostya was on the verge of retiring. Their careers did not match timewise. He didn't beat Gatti (another worn out stiff) for the faked-up title,until over a year after Tzu had retired at 37. He was about 8 years younger than Tzu and didn't have any tough fights at all, apart from Emanuel Augustus, who, if he had any sort of a punch-which he hadn't- would likely have KO'd or KD'd Mayweather in their very good fight.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Roadblock
                    Stop arguing like a school girl playing word games, if Floyd has flawed boxing name the parts that are flawed otherwise go away, its not hard kid, along your line of comments means everybody like Manny that has been stopped and beat are flawed to hell.

                    I will even make it easier for you, there is foot work, distance, kit of punches, ring IQ, hand speed, power, stamina, reach, durability, technique, discipline and dedication these are all the attributes that make up a fighter, every area can be broken down from 1 to 10.
                    so what May's rating then?

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                    • Roadblock
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by blowblow
                      so what May's rating then?
                      Rating there is no rating lol, how about another ATG there have been quite a few scattered over history.

                      You going to answer the original question or keep letting those female hormones ooze out of you ?

                      Im starting to see where blowblow comes from lol.

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