More Skilled Floyd or Roy

[BodyBagz]

Athletic.....??What about his killer KO punch in either hand, what about his boxing IQ which was very high, what about his dazzling speed and footwork.. You say athletic...Roger bannister was athletic... Roy Jones was a super top quality fighter.

Mayweather was a safetcy first guy who bored people to tears, so that they got up and walked out at his fights. Which incidentally was commented on by Larry Merchant during a fight. He also cherrypicked, and not least, avoided certain fighters, as well as getting a few decisions from his pet judges that he didn't deserve. As well he always made sure he had a good advantage over everybody he fought, or else he didn't fight. When he was at 130 was when he was at his best. After that it wa sheer cunning and dubious opponent selection.

Jones, clearly outclassed every one of his opponents however good until he made that silly move of going down from heavy to light heavy

RJJ wasn't technically sound.
Take into consideration how May had to make do with his brittle hands.

[blowblow]

brittle hands with money on it surely wins the judges scorecards.

[edgarg]

RJJ wasn't technically sound.
Take into consideration how May had to make do with his brittle hands.

I don't think that's quite right. Jones was as technically sound as he needed to be. If he had been a naturally slower and normal fighter, he'd have used all the technical skills he undoubtedly had.

Did you ever read his story of how and what his father did to make him what he became. His father treated him brutally, like an animal for years,. He was not likely to miss teaching him the fundamentals AND making sure he knew them from A to Z. He could have been the classic style boxer but his magnificently reactive sound-barrier-breaking speed was there to be used.

AND above all...don't forget he was a natural SHOWMAN. In all his fights he showboated as he wished. He was Nr. Entertainment.

So you see, I have a considerable reason to disagree with you. s for Mayweather's brittle hands, they only became brittle in later years, that is, if they ever really were.....I never heard of him at any time breaking a bone and having to cancel a fight over it. Knowing him, if he really had brittle, swollen, bruised hands, he would take the first opportunity to have them photographed and shown on prime-time news.

[N!Ck F.]

Floyd Mayweather is the best overall boxer to have fought in my lifetime.

He never lost, and fought in so many championship fights.

He’s annoying and everything, but Floyd is the best, not of all time, but of his generation.

Teofimo Lopez, Terence Crawford or Tyson Fury may surpass his legacy, though. It remains to be seen.

Lopez, Crawford & Fury may surpass Floyd’s legacy? Bro...No.

[Legends456]

Lopez, Crawford & Fury may surpass Floyd’s legacy? Bro...No.

I shall explain my argument as follows.

1. Lopez is still very young and just won a much bigger fight than Floyd ever did at that age. He went toe-to-toe with this generation’s Salvador Sanchez and took his crown. Keep in mind HE. HASN’T. EVEN. PEAKED.

2. Crawford appears to be slightly more skilled than Floyd was, when you take everything into account. Floyd had excellent defense, fast hands, and great counter-punching ability. Whereas with the exception of some minor occasional leaks in his defense, Crawford is that and even more. He’s an OLD SCHOOL fighter. A WARRIOR. He’s almost like SUGAR RAY LEONARD. If he can run the table, he has Floyd beat. The big question is, will they make those fights: Spence, Porter, DSG, etc.

3. Fury completely Mayweathered Klitschko, left boxing and almost killed himself afterwards, then came back from nearly destroying his body, then drew (some would say won) with the best Knockout Artist in years after getting up from two hellacious knockdowns, and followed it up by completely dismantling him in a fight I was almost certain he’d lose.

Of course, all three of these guys could go downhill from here and I would change my mind about them.

I’m just saying, being the realist, they are all on a level with Floyd IF they play their cards right, and could still potentially even surpass his legacy.

Keep in mind that others like Ali, SRR, Durán, Hagler, Hearns, and SRL are way ahead of Floyd in stature and legacy, I am not saying that these three are going to surpass them.

[Roadblock]

I don't think that's quite right. Jones was as technically sound as he needed to be. If he had been a naturally slower and normal fighter, he'd have used all the technical skills he undoubtedly had.

Did you ever read his story of how and what his father did to make him what he became. His father treated him brutally, like an animal for years,. He was not likely to miss teaching him the fundamentals AND making sure he knew them from A to Z. He could have been the classic style boxer but his magnificently reactive sound-barrier-breaking speed was there to be used.

AND above all...don't forget he was a natural SHOWMAN. In all his fights he showboated as he wished. He was Nr. Entertainment.

So you see, I have a considerable reason to disagree with you. s for Mayweather's brittle hands, they only became brittle in later years, that is, if they ever really were.....I never heard of him at any time breaking a bone and having to cancel a fight over it. Knowing him, if he really had brittle, swollen, bruised hands, he would take the first opportunity to have them photographed and shown on prime-time news.

Jones had to out box his best opponents, he didnt stop Toney McCallum or Hopkins, if you look at Jones biggest name opponents he had to out box them, where his legend was made was in destroying B grade guys in spectacular fashion and he fought a truck load of nobodys.

Roy beat some good solid guys, and had decisions over a few outstanding opponents, Floyd and Manny fought and beat murders rows for a very long time over the most hotly contested divisions in boxing 130 to 154 .

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The two greatest talents in recent boxing times.

Who is more skilled

Floyd was more skilled definitely.

Roy was more talented but that was due to his technical skills combined with his insane athleticism.

However, in terms of technical skill there are very few fighters in history that were more skilled than Mayweather.

[PRINCEKOOL]

The myth that Roy Jones Junior was just a athlete, is complete and utter nonsense 'Roy Jones Junior had some serious skills'.

I know for sure he was a better more creative combination puncher than Mayweather, and hand faster processing speed inside of the ring 'This gave him the appearance of not being choreographed like Mayweather, Mayweather was like a algorithm inside of the ring'.

Jones for sure had a better offense, where as Mayweather had a better defense.

Tyson Fury relies a lot on his athleticism, does a lot of things not text book from my observation 'Fury does not even throw his punches properly on the inside, squares himself up constantly'.

But like Roy Jones Junior 'Fury has a incredible fast processing speed, reasoning skills inside of the ring' and this gives him the appearance of free-styling, and not being choreographed.

When people state that a boxer is not technically sound 'They use these terminologies to try and appear like they know what they are talking about' it also glorifies SIMPLE, non-creative boring fighters.

It takes technique to throw the kind of combinations Roy Jones would throw, it takes technique to invade the punches he would invade, or get off his offense and create opportunities with lightening fast processing speed 'Those are the facts'.

Roy Jones is still technically gifted now, he still does things more impressive now than fighters who are active 'It is just that his durability and body is slightly wrecked'.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

RJJ wasn't technically sound.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Skill...Mayweather. Talent...Roy.
Prime for prime the better fighter...Roy imo. Prime Floyd looked beatable vs Castillo and got wobbled and touched up by guys like Corley and Augustus. Roy absolutely blasted that level of opposition.

Absolutely spot on mate...