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  • koolkc107
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    Arum/Warren Need To Remember Who They Are Trying To Screw

    If you thought Spence vs Crawford was hard to make before this fiasco with Wilder and Fury, guess what it's going to be like now?

    And, there are several other places where fighters on different platforms need to fight and the PBC is a player in many of them.

    And all of this is going to get screwed over because promoters are too greedy to do the right thing?

    Oh well...
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    #2
    Originally posted by koolkc107
    If you thought Spence vs Crawford was hard to make before this fiasco with Wilder and Fury, guess what it's going to be like now?

    And, there are several other places where fighters on different platforms need to fight and the PBC is a player in many of them.

    And all of this is going to get screwed over because promoters are too greedy to do the right thing?

    Oh well...
    "Arum/Warren Need To Remember Who They Are Trying To Screw"

    Yeah, the same people who tried to screw Eddie Hearn and AJ over the Andy Ruiz rematch. Fast Eddie slapped them into line real quick!
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      #3
      Originally posted by kafkod
      "Arum/Warren Need To Remember Who They Are Trying To Screw"

      Yeah, the same people who tried to screw Eddie Hearn and AJ over the Andy Ruiz rematch. Fast Eddie slapped them into line real quick!
      Nope.

      Ruiz wanted more money.

      And he got it.

      But, had he refused to fight, AJ would have had legal cause.

      Just like Wilder does now.

      Thanks for your help pointing that out.

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        #4
        Originally posted by koolkc107
        Nope.

        Ruiz wanted more money.

        And he got it.

        But, had he refused to fight, AJ would have had legal cause.

        Just like Wilder does now.

        Thanks for your help pointing that out.
        He did try refusing to fight AJ anywhere except in the States. It was Hearn's legal suit that straightened him and Haymon out, not the extra money.

        Wilder has no legal right to a rematch now. His deadline for enforcing it has expired.

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          #5
          Originally posted by kafkod
          He did try refusing to fight AJ anywhere except in the States. It was Hearn's legal suit that straightened him and Haymon out, not the extra money.

          Wilder has no legal right to a rematch now. His deadline for enforcing it has expired.
          It was the money. And certain assurances.

          The lawsuit was a desperate move doomed to fail and everyone involved knew it.

          They had a great "out" that no US court would have ruled against- namely safety concerns in Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are still trying to live down the murder and dismemberment of a prominent US journalist.

          As for Wilder, we'll see.

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            #6
            koolkc107 pretending to be a lawyer again i see

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              #7
              Originally posted by koolkc107
              If you thought Spence vs Crawford was hard to make before this fiasco with Wilder and Fury, guess what it's going to be like now?

              And, there are several other places where fighters on different platforms need to fight and the PBC is a player in many of them.

              And all of this is going to get screwed over because promoters are too greedy to do the right thing?

              Oh well...
              It's not just PBC Fury is screwing over it's also ESPN. ESPN isn't paying Fury all that money to fight overseas in the early evening on the app going up against college football on ESPN. Fury vs Wilder is the only PPV fight ESPN has. From what I'm hearing Bob Arum isn't happy with Fury's decision.

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                Who cares. Fuck Haymon, Arum, Eddie and Warren. Fans of promoters, managers and advisors are ******.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mammoth
                  Who cares. Fuck Haymon, Arum, Eddie and Warren. Fans of promoters, managers and advisors are ******.
                  This has nothing to do with being a "fan of promoters"

                  This has everything to do with promoters once again shytting on fans due to greed.

                  There's going to be EVEN MORE fights that don't get made now.

                  And they won't get made because the already sketchy distrust between promotional outfits just took a huge kick to the groin.

                  You think Haymon wants to hear jackshyt from Arum about a Spence vs Crawford fight now?

                  Take a good look at several of the more glamorous weightclasses and who holds which belts and you'll start to understand the full extent of this fiasco.

                  This is going to affect boxing for quite some time.

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                  • koolkc107
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by denium
                    koolkc107 pretending to be a lawyer again i see
                    Better than pretending to be a responsible moderator.

                    Here's a clue...if you're going to administer for a website, you should at least be vaguely familiar with articles posted on it.

                    I didn't have to be a lawyer to come up with that. There was an article posted on THIS cite that posited as much:


                    However, Warren cautions that a legal case will not be that simple - because Saudi Arabia has been set as the fight location.

                    "The bottom line is, the US State Department advises its citizens not to go to Saudi Arabia for many reasons – the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, human rights issues, they’ve got a long paragraph on torture, cruel and inhumane treatment, women’s rights and it talks about the risk of going to airports where *********s may attack – that’s all on their official website. His own government is telling him his life could be in danger," Warren told Thursday’s Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast on Talk Sport.

                    “All this nonsense about having his titles taken away from him, that is nonsense. You can be sued for breach of contract, and he may have a point there, but it’s not an easy case, that’s for sure. He has a very, very strong position for not travelling.”


                    Veteran promoter Frank Warren has given his take on the ongoing war of words with respect to the heavyweight rematch between IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO champion Andy Ruiz and challenger Anthony Joshua.


                    Ruiz had an out that no court in the US would have overruled and everyone knew it.

                    Except you and krapzod or whatever his name is I guess.

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