Comments Thread For: Arum Shreds Sky Sports: What They Are Doing in UK is an Absolute Disgrace!

[Earl-Hickey]

I'm not seeing the relation between the two here. Sky/Matchroom is killing UK boxing by putting some UK fights on PPV for £20 (and often getting good numbers doing it), but hey look at this US based fight that you can watch for £10 at 4am on an obscure internet streaming service!!? how does that effect UK boxing in any way?

Also this "real fan" snobbery is cringe bro. Surely someone who wasnt a "real" fan wouldnt pay to watch boxing in the first place?

A lot of this just comes down to people being pissed off that Sky/Matchroom/Hearn are successful enough to be able to go to PPV relatively often anyway. Frank would do it too if he felt he could, but for whatever reason he just cannot generate enough interest for his fights, even while having guys like DDD and Yarde.

Yes I quite agree

Matchroom do market excellently to the casual fanbase, and are able to draw in general audiences, Frank I don't think understands the Internet age, he's an old school promoter and doesn't have the reach of Eddie.

But the idea that if you watch matchroom cards you must be a "casual" and not a real boxing fan is just nonsense, the elitism is quite pathetic.

I enjoy cards from both sides but I understand Frank is better off putting his fights on regular BT sports as he will get more cash that way, he can't promote Duboius vs Joyce to do decent PPV numbers as neither is a name fighter.

It's a lot of bluster and the idea that Frank isn't all about the money and is in it to give back to "real fans" is absoloutley hilarious. He's just as crooked and greedy as Hearn he's just not as successful at it.

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I'm not seeing the relation between the two here. Sky/Matchroom is killing UK boxing by putting some UK fights on PPV for £20 (and often getting good numbers doing it), but hey look at this US based fight that you can watch for £10 at 4am on an obscure internet streaming service!!? how does that effect UK boxing in any way?

Also this "real fan" snobbery is cringe bro. Surely someone who wasnt a "real" fan wouldnt pay to watch boxing in the first place?

A lot of this just comes down to people being pissed off that Sky/Matchroom/Hearn are successful enough to be able to go to PPV relatively often anyway. Frank would do it too if he felt he could, but for whatever reason he just cannot generate enough interest for his fights, even while having guys like DDD and Yarde.

Nothing like watching live boxing am/pm .Obscure platform or not.Fans want to watch boxing whatever , I've no problem with who's successful but am pissed off with the quality of some fights that are put our way on PPV for 20 quid when lets say any of the above could put this great match up on for the price that a 'obscure' service is doing.I would say the DDD v J.J. contest(free on b.t.) is more of a 50/50 contest than any of the three matchroom PPv's planned before the year end at 20 quid a pop.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

No, but still, give me 8 ppv for same price of 1

Quality over quantity bro.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I totally agree....That's why the mugs are still paying £20 PPV for c+ level fights on sky and the real fans get a A level match up for £10 on Fite.

Exactly mate, I’m not even bothering replying to the people that can’t understand the quality aspect and are just blindly regurgitating the same price difference and numbers Hearn does on IFL.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I'm not seeing the relation between the two here. Sky/Matchroom is killing UK boxing by putting some UK fights on PPV for £20 (and often getting good numbers doing it), but hey look at this US based fight that you can watch for £10 at 4am on an obscure internet streaming service!!? how does that effect UK boxing in any way?

Also this "real fan" snobbery is cringe bro. Surely someone who wasnt a "real" fan wouldnt pay to watch boxing in the first place?

A lot of this just comes down to people being pissed off that Sky/Matchroom/Hearn are successful enough to be able to go to PPV relatively often anyway. Frank would do it too if he felt he could, but for whatever reason he just cannot generate enough interest for his fights, even while having guys like DDD and Yarde.

But putting fights on in Saudi Arabia is great for the fans...

No offence mate but you are not seeing the relation because you are not intelligent enough to understand it. I thought you might be a new’ish fan but if you’ve been following boxing since the 90’s it’s worrying you still have this perspective.

Sky/Matchroom are doing well from a business perspective but they are killing the credibility of boxing in this country. The bias propaganda, substandard PPV’s, consistent mismatches.

British boxing was WAAAAYY more popular in the late 80’s, early 90’s because it was shown on premium terrestrial television. Putting anything half decent behind a paywall does not help grow the sport it stunts the growth of the sport. How can you not see that?

Frank could have EASILY gone PPV for Dubois-Joyce, he CHOSE not to because he actually cares about the sport. He’s a boxing man.

The Hearn’s are not boxing men, they are just venture capitalists. Well Barry is, the kid is just using daddy’s money in reality.

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Exactly mate, I’m not even bothering replying to the people that can’t understand the quality aspect and are just blindly regurgitating the same price difference and numbers Hearn does on IFL.

You want to be careful with that attitude mate, if Eddie clocks that he'll have you on PPv !

[Bronx2245]

Basically their charging around $13! Over here, we would call them "Patriots!"

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

You want to be careful with that attitude mate, if Eddie clocks that he'll have you on PPv !

He’ll probably put me in with one of those YouTubers.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Basically their charging around $13! Over here, we would call them "Patriots!"

Would you pay $13 to watch Dereck Chisora and Dillian Whyte?

I just won’t pay to watch average fighters.

I’d rather pay $70 to watch world class boxing.

[TMLT87]

Sky/Matchroom are doing well from a business perspective but they are killing the credibility of boxing in this country.

What the **** does this actually mean in real world tangible terms? who is deciding the credibility of UK boxing exactly? and what is supposed to be the ultimate result of them killing this credibility? is everyone gonna stop watching boxing? you're still here arent you?

Or....maybe, just maybe, you're just reaching and clutching onto abstract unquantifiable BS because you want to **** on Hearn and Matchroom?

Putting anything half decent behind a paywall does not help grow the sport it stunts the growth of the sport. How can you not see that?

I agree with this in theory, but then somehow Queensbury does relatively piss poor ratings and crowds and has a much lower profile than the promotion sticking its fights behind a paywall.

Frank could have EASILY gone PPV for Dubois-Joyce, he CHOSE not to because he actually cares about the sport. He’s a boxing man.

He probably couldnt though. Hes a slimy bastard just like Eddie and every other boxing promoter. Its the same thing as Arum in the US where he pretends he keeps stuff off PPV for ethical reasons when in reality he just knows it would bomb compared to his competitors and he'll end up looking bad.

And lets be honest, Dubois and Yarde in particular would be much bigger stars if they were with Matchroom. Again, Frank for whatever reason seriously struggles to garner interest for his shows even when hes giving them away, how is that good for British boxing?