Keith Thurman vs Prime Miguel Cotto

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  • Ca$ual Fan
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    #51
    Originally posted by Roadblock
    Cotto is battle proven at elite level, many times proven, I believe he would break Keith down and stop him late round. he would do it in 6 rounds against the broken version Manny fought, who has Thurman beat ?

    For me the modern guys TC Spence Thurman Porter are not proven at the level of the last generation guys , to be honest todays best have done fck all by comparison with the last generation, Floyd Manny Oscar Cotto Mosley have many times been in superfights , this lot been in none.
    What makes Porter not proven? He just fought every elite in their prime. He was one of prime Manny’s major sparring partners.

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      #52
      If a one dimensional Randall Bailey can line up a few hard rights against Cotto then I think Thurman can land quite a few more along with a variety of other shots.
      It’d be back and forth while it lasted.

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      • John Locke
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        #53
        That's a great fight but yous know who I'm going with! Keith is bigger and more athletic than Cotto. He would land a better variety of shots and win a lot of the exchanges being the quicker/more explosive guy. I can see both guys getting hurt and Thurman walking away with a close UD

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        • Noelanthony
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          #54
          Originally posted by hugh grant
          I think Thurman wins. When history books are written these 2 will be considered 2 very good serious operators at WW.
          PAC the flyweight has wins over both.
          What does that say about PAC? People say srr was so great as he has legitimate claim for being best ever ww and middleweight! Well PAC the flyweight has a better ww resume than ww campaigners
          Pac fought Cotto at catchweight( I could be wrong mind you) Considering Pacquiao age it was a very good win over Thurman but was that the Thurman of old? With all his injuries and time out the ring one can argue Thurman was not really the same. Pac beat Oscar also. That Oscar was spent.

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          • Fists_of_Fury
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            #55
            Cotto by stoppage from a left hook body shot. Keef would be on his bike all night until he was stopped.

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            • Roadblock
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              #56
              Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
              What makes Porter not proven? He just fought every elite in their prime. He was one of prime Manny’s major sparring partners.
              You mean he fought the unproven top guys of today, the top guys today have not proven themselves like the top guys of the last era thats the point.

              This era hasnt settled in yet what super fights have their been, does Porter Spence qualify as a super fight like say Oscar vs Mosley, I dont think so.

              The best of any given time is not equal to the best of another time just on face value, thats why winning a belt does not mean sht on its own, who you beat and when you beat them makes it great or just a high value trinket.

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                #57
                Cotto. And its not close

                Prime Keith almost got KTFO by literal journeyman in Josesito Lopez and Luis Collazo in addition to 46 year old Manny. And Keith has been hurt by body shots how many times??? And what was Cottos bread and butter? That's right, hook to the liver.

                Cotto TKO
                Last edited by UNBANNED; 09-21-2020, 05:19 AM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Roadblock
                  You mean he fought the unproven top guys of today, the top guys today have not proven themselves like the top guys of the last era thats the point.

                  This era hasnt settled in yet what super fights have their been, does Porter Spence qualify as a super fight like say Oscar vs Mosley, I dont think so.

                  The best of any given time is not equal to the best of another time just on face value, thats why winning a belt does not mean sht on its own, who you beat and when you beat them makes it great or just a high value trinket.
                  The problem is most people on this forum are simple and dont understand your point.

                  If all fighters at WW today are C level or lower (which they are) and a few emerge as superior that doesnt make them A fighters. Rather theyre C+, B-, or maybe even a B.

                  Crawford is the only one who might be B+ cause this is his 3rd weight class and hes never had a close fight yet...in addition to passing the eye test

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
                    If a one dimensional Randall Bailey can line up a few hard rights against Cotto then I think Thurman can land quite a few more along with a variety of other shots.
                    It’d be back and forth while it lasted.
                    By that analogy Manny can be KOed by any b grader that lands, and youre also saying any B grader can land, boxing just does not work out that way, there are so many reasons why a performance with one guy does not guarantee the same thing against another guy, motivation alone can be the sole reason for a guys worst and best performance.

                    What guys did Thurman beat that are anywhere near the opponents Cotto faced.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Roadblock
                      By that analogy Manny can be KOed by any b grader that lands, and youre also saying any B grader can land, boxing just does not work out that way, there are so many reasons why a performance with one guy does not guarantee the same thing against another guy, motivation alone can be the sole reason for a guys worst and best performance.

                      What guys did Thurman beat that are anywhere near the opponents Cotto faced.
                      If that’s what you took away from what I said then okay.

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