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  • #61
    Originally posted by Since1976 View Post
    LOL nice try! Keep making assumptions about my if you wish. Did i say experience does not matter or that Loma skills were not considerably better? Yeah that's what i thought...

    UK kid knocked Loma down and he's not exactly fast, Teo is faster and if you apply basic physics, can generate more force than the UK kid. That is Teo's opening and like Manny vs Marquez a brutal KO is possible. He has to land that punch, but since the UK kid managed to do it, it makes Teo dangerous. Mikey had more skill and experience than Spence, but size just like experience matters.

    If you know boxing like you claim, you know that a big eraser can be an equalizer in the right hands. Ask RJJ who's permanently damaged because of the less skilled Tarver. Kavaliauskas managed to land one on the better skilled Crawford.

    Take a deep breath before replying, you'll avoid making assumptions about people's comments that do not make any sense.

    Enjoy the fight! It'll be a good one, 50/50 IMO because Loma could school him and make him quit or Teo could land something nasty!
    Antonio Tarver is a southpaw and he landed a left hand on RJJ. Other than that I agree with your assessment except Tarver had decent skills and power he went on to knockout some Cruisers and Heavyweights.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Since1976 View Post
      LOL nice try! Keep making assumptions about my if you wish. Did i say experience does not matter or that Loma skills were not considerably better? Yeah that's what i thought...

      UK kid knocked Loma down and he's not exactly fast, Teo is faster and if you apply basic physics, can generate more force than the UK kid. That is Teo's opening and like Manny vs Marquez a brutal KO is possible. He has to land that punch, but since the UK kid managed to do it, it makes Teo dangerous. Mikey had more skill and experience than Spence, but size just like experience matters.

      If you know boxing like you claim, you know that a big eraser can be an equalizer in the right hands. Ask RJJ who's permanently damaged because of the less skilled Tarver. Kavaliauskas managed to land one on the better skilled Crawford.

      Take a deep breath before replying, you'll avoid making assumptions about people's comments that do not make any sense.

      Enjoy the fight! It'll be a good one, 50/50 IMO because Loma could school him and make him quit or Teo could land something nasty!
      Teofimo is getting schooled. All I keep hearing is about Teofimo power. When you see Loma playing peekaboo with his hands down and turning him constantly you will realise all that power in his hands wil be fruitless if you can’t land it

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Stephankotyk View Post
        Btw, at a time Loma-Walters, Walters was considered as top10 p4p and should have brutally KO Loma. Same goes to Rigo btw who should have break his jaw

        Size matter to a degree and it is only kindof advantage Lopez has. Though i have doubts he will be able to use it properly, people tend to underestimate Lomas power and timing.
        Would need to go check the numbers, but Walters was about -455 before the Loma fight and Teo about -365, so the bookies are giving Teo a slightly better shot, but not too much in it.

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        • #64
          I actually quite like the fact that their is no rematch clause. Makes feel like each one will give it that extra bit to make things more definitive.

          Also I feel like a rematch clause would be to the benefit of Lomachenko who is far more established and has more to lose. Not sure if Teofimo is complaining but if he is I have no idea why.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
            Teofimo is getting schooled. All I keep hearing is about Teofimo power. When you see Loma playing peekaboo with his hands down and turning him constantly you will realise all that power in his hands wil be fruitless if you can’t land it
            It really is crazy how Lopez has been built up off that one big stoppage of Commey. The fight right before that he struggled with not just the Japanese fighter, but with self-doubt, and what sounded like, minor depression. And if you look on his resume’, try to recognize anyone other than Diego Magdeleno. I think he’s in for a big-time humbling.

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            • #66
              Just a healthy hype

              I understand the hype, they need to sell this fight. No rematch clause means Loma team knows what they are facing. Lopez is good but not at the level of Loma. Loma will school Lopez and move on. That simple.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by revelated View Post
                You guys are comedy.

                But here's the thing. I'm just a guy on a forum. Don't listen to me. Why don't you listen to Bradley and Ward - multi-time champion boxers - tell you the reason Loma has very little to worry about.

                And this is what I saw especially against Nagatani. Same thing you saw. So don't dispute what they're saying. They're legit flaws of Teofimo and you guys are rating his 'eye test' performances WAY too high while dismissing Nick Walters who was expected to beat the snot out of Loma at the time.




                Shoulder roll until he sees a clear shot, then attack the body viciously, wait for them to open then nail them with a hook.


                Do you REALLY think any of that - ANY of it - will work against Lomachenko?

                Even if he does manage to drop Loma, as we saw with Linares, Loma will just get up and walk you down.

                Experience matters, people. It matters.
                I was questioning what the guy said, doesn’t mean i think Lopez will win. Don’t be so sure he’ll just pick himself up and walk him down. Getting hit by Lopez is different than Linares. And actually Loma was expected to beat Walters per odds. But don’t get me wrong, i remember in the boxing community a certain sector was hyping Walters up to “expose” Loma. It was a very good win I just don’t think Walters is as good or as difficult as Lopez.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
                  lol@walters being top 10 p4p in 2016....he wasnt even on the espns "receiving votes" list for the top 10 in 2016 because loma was his only fight of 2016...his previous was a draw with jason sosa..

                  rigo was p4p rated but he was also coming up in weight

                  most gave walters and rigo a good shot....and to his credit loma took care of business easily.....theyre good wins...lets not be out here acting like theyre amazing w's....i have nothing against loma but you are blindly trying to rate those wins much higher than they are and act like its an amazing feat
                  Well said. Very good wins for Loma but nothing out of this world. I do boxing fans calling for those fights and certain haters saying he was going to get exposed, but at the end of the day he was favored to win both fights by a considerable margin.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
                    Bumochenko will still be the 'French-Fries' WBC chumpion after Teofimo knocks him out, that's the reason.
                    Ai'ight. I don't even dislike you so winning this bet won't be that enjoyable.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by chubuk7 View Post
                      Pal, Loma didn't lose that fight to Salido, he lost to a system that did not like him. Cheater Salido, 50 extra low blows and not only that but he was a middleweight when he came in the ring and yet Loma almost knock him out in the last round. But hey, everyone’s entitled to their opinion and no one can stop you saying that vaccines cause autism, no matter how many times that claim has been disproved.
                      What system does not like this privilege hype-job?! The 'system' gave Lomachenko undeserved opportunities ; starting with a shot at the vacant WBO 126 title that he failed to capture against Orlando Salido. The fact that Salido was stripped on the scales is the reason how Vasily Lomachenko made 'History' -- WHAT A JOKE! ESPN, wont tell you about that, nor mention Saensak Muangsurin.

                      Real FACTS.
                      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
                      ——————/-

                      Strong words there. Many will disagree though.

                      Let’s focus on what’s on the plate - if Loma beats up Teofimo, what next?
                      Will you acknowledge Loma is actually good? Or will you discredit that win too?
                      Teofimo has two world-level opponents on his resume, a total of nine rounds between the two. Teofimo is green, Bumochenko thinks this is a cherry-pick, but its going to be sour. HELL NO, Bumochenko is not getting credit!
                      Originally posted by siablo14 View Post
                      Ai'ight. I don't even dislike you so winning this bet won't be that enjoyable.
                      You're back! I thought you skipped town when you heard that Teofimo was coming to takeover. I'll see you October!
                      Last edited by 1hourRun; 09-17-2020, 07:49 PM.

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