Comments Thread For: Teofimo Lopez: There's No Rematch Clause In Contracts For Lomachenko Fight

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  • Oregonian
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    #81
    Originally posted by 1hourRun
    What system does not like

    Teofimo has two world-level opponents on his resume, a total of nine rounds between the two. Teofimo is green, Bumochenko thinks this is a cherry-pick, but its going to be sour. HELL NO, Bumochenko. I'll see you October!
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    I get that. And I’m focusing on your statement that “it’s going to be sour”. I get it.

    Once again, if Loma is a bum as you keep stating, then there’s no way he beats Teofimo. Yes?

    If he beats him and makes it look easy, is he still a bum?

    More important, Loma has a good three years more in his career, and that means potentially and hopefully 8 more fights.
    When does he get to a point where in your eyes, he no longer becomes a bum?
    What are your thoughts on GRJ? Is he a bum?

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    • mxtali
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      #82
      Originally posted by revelated
      And I'm telling you that anyone can look like a powerhouse against the C-level.

      The guy couldn't put a straight up regional, not even prospect, Nagatani away. What makes you think he can put away an upper skilled pro?

      I don't see 50/50 at all. MAYBE 70/30.
      Agreed, level of competition has a lot to do with how much a killer someone looks like. He couldn’t put the japanese guy away, that could mean the guy has an iron chin. There are journeyman out there that are tough as hell. Just like there are world class guys who don’t have iron chins. My point is anyone can be knocked out and Loma has never been known as a guy with an iron chin. It’s not glass but he can be hurt.

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      • chubuk7
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        #83
        Originally posted by JonDelPrado
        What about the precision? And by precision I mean timing as well of course. Lopez has been beating the crap out of people because he fires and connects powerful, accurate shots that have maximum effect. Just rewatch the Commey fight. On the other hand Loma is not untouchable. marriaga caught him clean and reddened his face, Campbell hit his body throughout and Linares really clocked him and dropped him. Should not be taking Lopez lightly.
        Credit to Teofimo to test himself at this level. however, this whole fight is nothing but hype and mismatch. Loma is a different animal, he will simply tear the floor with this amateur boy. Again, all respect to Lopez for his guts but Loma will simply school him. If you don't see this, I have bad news for you.

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        • dan_cov
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          #84
          That was a painful read. It was almost like I was rehearing this:

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          • Combat Talk Radio
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            #85
            Originally posted by mxtali
            Agreed, level of competition has a lot to do with how much a killer someone looks like. He couldn’t put the japanese guy away, that could mean the guy has an iron chin. There are journeyman out there that are tough as hell. Just like there are world class guys who don’t have iron chins. My point is anyone can be knocked out and Loma has never been known as a guy with an iron chin. It’s not glass but he can be hurt.
            No, that had nothing to do with chin, and you suggesting that tells me that you didn't watch the video with Bradley and Ward.

            Lopez swallows at measuring distance.

            What good is power when you can't hit something?

            Loma moves a LOT against guys that he knows can ****. He circles and pivots. Even if Lopez does land he won't be able to sit down on the punches.

            He nailed Commey because Commey stopped moving.

            His power is basic against moving targets and his boxing is a step below basic offensively.

            THAT is why Nagatani took him the full distance.

            But Loma is far superior at actually boxing than Nagatani.

            It's either a blowout decision for Loma, a ref stoppage for Loma, or NoMasChenko with Lopez quitting on the stool.

            These are the only three possible outcomes.

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            • JonDP
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              #86
              That’s some çocky shít! Even Joshua had a rematch clause against 32 to 1 Andy Ruiz

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              • BodyBagz
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                #87
                I like it better with no rematch clause. If the fight is worthy a rematch, it will happen. Not fair to tie up a guy.

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                • 1hourRun
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Oregonian
                  ———————-

                  I get that. And I’m focusing on your statement that “it’s going to be sour”. I get it.

                  Once again, if Loma is a bum as you keep stating, then there’s no way he beats Teofimo. Yes?

                  If he beats him and makes it look easy, is he still a bum?

                  More important, Loma has a good three years more in his career, and that means potentially and hopefully 8 more fights.
                  When does he get to a point where in your eyes, he no longer becomes a bum?
                  What are your thoughts on GRJ? Is he a bum?
                  I feel that I answered your current question regarding the value of a potential win for Vasily Lomachenko over a inexperienced Teofimo Lopez, in my last reply. Vegas odds suggest that Teofimo is a sizable underdog, so Lomachenko is expected to make it look 'Easy', this is not viewed as a great accomplishment according to the moneyline/sportsbooks/experts. Yet, Bumochenko fans want full credit and praise for Vasily cherry-pick

                  Speaking of green opponents, Gary Russell jr. vs. Vasily Lomachenko is a perfect example of privilege : Gary Russell jr. should of got a shot at the WBO featherweight title against the #2. ranked contender for the World Boxing Organization Chonlatarn Piriyapinyo or the Pole Kamil Laszczyk, not Vasily Lomachenko who lost in his first opportunity at said title.

                  I know that I'm exposing this clown, and no one can step to me and tell me NOTHING, I'm kicking real facts.

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                  • daggum
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by 1hourRun
                    I feel that I answered your current question regarding the value of a potential win for Vasily Lomachenko over a inexperienced Teofimo Lopez, in my last reply. Vegas odds suggest that Teofimo is a sizable underdog, so Lomachenko is expected to make it look 'Easy', this is not viewed as a great accomplishment according to the moneyline/sportsbooks/experts. Yet, Bumochenko fans want full credit and praise for Vasily cherry-pick

                    Speaking of green opponents, Gary Russell jr. vs. Vasily Lomachenko is a perfect example of privilege : Gary Russell jr. should of got a shot at the WBO featherweight title against the #2. ranked contender for the World Boxing Organization Chonlatarn Piriyapinyo or the Pole Kamil Laszczyk, not Vasily Lomachenko who lost in his first opportunity at said title.

                    I know that I'm exposing this clown, and no one can step to me and tell me NOTHING, I'm kicking real facts.
                    gary would be p4p #1 if they hadnt robbed him against loma

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                    • 1hourRun
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      gary would be p4p #1 if they hadnt robbed him against loma


                      Well wait a minute, I dont know about T-Rex being P4P for longest uneventful title reign in the sport today, but I do know that Jack Reiss robbed Gary Russell of a legit knockdown in the 9th.

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