How exactly do you defeat Roy Jones Jr in his absolute prime?

[soul_survivor]

Jones like any quick fighter would hate high volume, hard punching opponents who could smother his work. Hopkins made it quite difficult, Griffin managed to hold more than his own and in all honesty, we never saw Jones against the very best around his weight in the 90s, namely Eubank and Benn. There could be a reason for that.

[Rear Hook]

Michalczewski knocked out Nester Giovinnini, a crusierweight champion.

He beat Garciano Rochiginni twice, who was a regular title challenger.

He outclassed Virgil Hill, who was the undisputed light heavyweight champion at the time.

He outclassed Montell Griffin, who holds wins over James Toney and Roy Jones.

He knocked out Richard Hall twice, who at that point had only lost to Roy Jones... in a performance that George Foreman stood up and applauded Hall for.

He knocked out Derrick Harmon, who has a win over Glen Johnson.

You can’t write him off in a Jones fight.

I rarely comment here, but the bolded part is one of, if not the silliest comment Ive read here, and that's saying a lot.
He praised Hall for his balls and endurance jackass! Other fighters would've either thrown the towel or gotten themselves into a coma or permanent brain damage.

Watch the fight again. Jones knocked out Hall two times. In the first round. There's a moment where Larry Merchant says he scored a round 10-8 for Jones even though there wasn't any knockdown. That's how crazy of a whoopin it was.

But here we are, and anyone reading your comment without watching that fight would think that Foreman thought Hall was a boxing genius of some sort

[Rear Hook]

1) come in 800lbs overweight...

2) " accidentally " fall on Roy, a few seconds into the fight

3) inject him with cyanide, with the syringe you had hidden in your glove




thats the only way

Fixed it for ya

[champion4ever]

Montell Griffin has already drafted the Blue Print on how to defeat a prime Roy. You play the role of counter puncher and force Roy to come to you and not come at him.

As a matter of fact, I had Montell Griffin winning the first Jones fight for this very reason. Griffin was able to get in and land punches on Roy before he could counter him.

[Rear Hook]

Prime Golovkin beats a prime Roy Jones. Have seen both careers, probably more than once. But whoever is picked in these hypothetical matchups fanboy’s wont allow it.

I stand corrected. This is the silliest comment I've ever read in here

A guy who could beat someone putting his hands behind his back would lose against someone who had trouble against Daniel Jacobs and who's best win is...whom? Geale? Murray? Kell Brook?

Yeah, right.

[b Murphington]

Exactly what i was thinking.
How do you beat an athletic puncher with great IQ.
Well slow him down to the body, swarm him and dont show him no respect.
Unfortunately these type of fighters are very rare with a constant gas tank and strength to push Roy upto the ropes which is why he is and always should be considered an ATG.

Yeah that might work, but fighting in that way is risky at the same time because you’re leaving yourself open to awkward looking power shots coming in from Jones. And jones could KO you with anything he threw. And Jones was too tricky. You wouldn’t be able to stay close long enough to warm him to do any damage.

[-Kev-]

Take the same ped's as him

That’s not how PED’s work.

If PED’s worked that way, where were all of the Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire’s and Sammy Sosa’s in baseball?

PED’s would make a Superstar athlete into a Supernova.

Same with working out. Steroids don’t magically give you muscle for lifting 10lb dumbbells a couple times a week. You still have to do a lot of work to get the gains, it takes hard work. Your hard work just comes to fruition faster on anabolic steroids.

Anabolic steroids can also be used for soreness or fatigue from working out, so you work out longer and can get back to working out faster than you would if you weren’t on it. They also help with post-surgery recoveries on athletes and would actually have no added benefits in terms of a physical advantage. It would just make the athlete go back to where they were faster.

Just saying, if Emmanuel Augustus took PED’s, he would not become a top 3 P4P superstar boxer. PED’s would work visible wonders only on those athletes who are already spectacular to begin with.

Pre-steroids Barry Bonds was actually a far better all around superstar baseball player and outfielder than he was during his PED days.

While on PED’s you do not work less than. PED uses actually would have to work harder than non PED users.

Lastly, anabolic steroid users downfall is abuse. They use so much of it that their own body stops producing test because it senses you have too much of it. This makes you literally depend on steroids like a junkie. So if you take steroids in moderation, and not abuse it, you can actually use it quite effectively and safely. It’s like people who say weed has good medical uses. Yes, that is in moderation, not overusing it like a pothead, killing your brain cells due to overdoing it. If you’re going to use anabolic steroids you better have gotten yourself a really knowledgable professional about its uses. It’s def not something to dabble into with the help from bro-science in the local gym.

[HitmanTommy]

Pre-steroids Barry Bonds was actually a far better all around superstar baseball player and outfielder than he was during his PED days.

Except he wasn't better at blasting the ball out of the park in his pre steroid days.

Bonds crushing balls out of the park while on steroids was one of the greatest things ever witnessed in sports.

[-Kev-]

I stand corrected. This is the silliest comment I've ever read in here

A guy who could beat someone putting his hands behind his back would lose against someone who had trouble against Daniel Jacobs and who's best win is...whom? Geale? Murray? Kell Brook?

Yeah, right.

Daniel Jacobs is a good fighter who at his best would give anyone fits.

The alarming opponents in GGG’s resume who gave him fits and lead me to believe he would not look very good against a prime RJJ is GGG vs Ian Gardner and Kassim Ouma. I also felt Kell Brook did a little too well for a top 5 Welterweight (And not #1) fighting what was considered the #1 ranked MW by The Ring (Canelo was ranked as Champion).

Seeing GGG’s frustrations vs Gardner and Ouma, two fighters that are no where near prime Roy Jones level, leads me to believe that RJJ would toy with any version of GGG.

As a consolation prize, i’ll give GGG’s the benefit of the doubt and say at his very best he might just get UD’ed widely. GGG’s chin can’t be discredited. He has been hit pretty hard by some hard hitting boxers and seems to take it very well.

[Rear Hook]

Daniel Jacobs is a good fighter who at his best would give anyone fits.

The alarming opponents in GGG’s resume who gave him fits and lead me to believe he would not look very good against a prime RJJ is GGG vs Ian Gardner and Kassim Ouma. I also felt Kell Brook did a little too well for a top 5 Welterweight (And not #1) fighting what was considered the #1 ranked MW by The Ring (Canelo was ranked as Champion).

Seeing GGG’s frustrations vs Gardner and Ouma, two fighters that are no where near prime Roy Jones level, leads me to believe that RJJ would toy with any version of GGG.

As a consolation prize, i’ll give GGG’s the benefit of the doubt and say at his very best he might just get UD’ed widely. GGG’s chin can’t be discredited. He has been hit pretty hard by some hard hitting boxers and seems to take it very well.

Well, yeah, I don't know if he could knock out Golovkin. Im just certain he would toy with him regardless. Whether he could knock him out depends on Golovkin's chin, and other than Canelo it's never been really tested.