Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz To Fight Scott Alexander On FOX's Ruiz-Arreola Undercard November 7

[_Rexy_]

This dude should be rich as hell just on opportunity. He always fight hard but comes up short and he’s lately told us about 3 times this is my last one if I don’t win, heard that before!

His fight with Adam was a great match though. Nobody watched Him lose that fight and hoped he’d keep his word.

[kafkod]

he got the same amount. haymon the idiot just matched the offer for some reason. i really have no idea why as no one wanted that fight and it flopped. he could have gotten someone else to pay his fighter but instead he decided to drain his own funds to make a ****** fight.

After the first loss to Wilder, it became more valuable to Haymon not to expose Ortiz to possible defeat because it would discredit Wilder's best victory.

I'm pretty sure that was why Haymon overpaid Ruiz to fight Wilder again, after he got the offer from Hearn to fight AJ.

[champion4ever]

Sure Bro - every HW was shaking in their boots after watching “the Boogeyman” go 12 rds with Malik Scott!! Lol! Wilder waited til he got old and slow then hyped him up into something He was not. Wilder should have grown a pair and fought Ortiz after the Jennings Ko - wen he was still near his prime. Instead chose to fight his “voluntary defenses” against the pathetic likes of Duhaupas, Spilka, Washington, Arreola, etc.

We are only mentioning Deontay Wilder but no one ever mentions Wladimir Klitschko, Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua. They were all title holders too. They could have given us boxing fans a fight we wanted to see as well but didn't and I wonder why?

[champion4ever]

dangerous - Lmao!!! Ur basing that Bs on Arreola’s fight against another sloppy fat beer-bellied opponent?? R u picking Arreola? Don’t matter how obese Ruiz is , he still has those quick hands on the inside and will easily destroy way way way past it punchy “no defense” Arreola in a few rds! It’s pathetic Pbc is still rolling Punchy Arreola out there and risking his long term health simply bc He is a Hispanic HW...who was in his prime and relevant about 11 yrs ago!!

Ruiz would be the easy favorite to win once they do actually decide to fight. The problem is both guys only know one way to fight and that is coming forward and fighting off the front foot.

Arreola eats a lot of punches but I don't think Andy Ruiz have that kind punching power to seriously threaten or hurt Cris Arreola. It should be a fun fight to watch though.

[kafkod]

We are only mentioning Deontay Wilder but no one ever mentions Wladimir Klitschko, Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua. They were all title holders too. They could have given us boxing fans a fight we wanted to see as well but didn't and I wonder why?

Ortiz pulled out of a fight with Ustinov which would have been a final eliminator for a shot at Wlad because of a dispute over prefight PED testing.

He was offered $7million for a shot at AJ and turned it down.

[PBR Streetgang]

We are only mentioning Deontay Wilder but no one ever mentions Wladimir Klitschko, Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua. They were all title holders too. They could have given us boxing fans a fight we wanted to see as well but didn't and I wonder why?

Which fight is that? Against Ortiz? Against Wilder?

Its typically not the fighter who doesn't want a fight but their management and/or promotion trying to navigate the perceived best possible path for success. Sometimes that's the fighters path for success and sometimes the promoter or manager's. There is some similarities between Ortiz and Whyte in that they weren't their respective promotion's top priority.

[champion4ever]

Ortiz pulled out of a fight with Ustinov which would have been a final eliminator for a shot at Wlad because of a dispute over prefight PED testing.

He was offered $7million for a shot at AJ and turned it down.

I don't know about the Klitschko situation but I do know that Luis Ortiz signed with Matchroom in 2016 in hopes of a title fight with Anthony Joshua. No he didn't need three belts. One would have been enough.

After the Malik Scott and David Allen fights I know he left and signed with the PBC in 2017 in order to fight the other title holder Deontay Wilder. Then once he became the WBA's mandatory challenger of that same year; AJ chose to fight Carlos Takam instead of the undefeated Luis Ortiz.

[REDEEMER]

I just think that Ortiz is the kind of fight Kownacki needed to redeem himself! He's still young so 2 losses wouldn't destroy his career! I wonder who Helenius is fighting next?

There’s better fighters coming up , two losses over at the WBC end is the end for a guy like Kownacki . A loss drops him in the rankings and then he’s looking at years before he anywhere near a title shot he would lose before he gets one . Ortiz has a terrible resume but I don’t see Kownacki getting by him he would just try and slide into a title fight without fighting anyone who’s favored over him . Kownacki was knocked out no one is going to be thinking Ortiz needs to do the same to redeem himself .

Helenius has poor defense ,Washington also beat him but he’s long and athletic, Kownacki beat Washington but he’s not a real top 10 guy and never was , in the end Helenius got beat by a guy not at top level so the Washington fight he won is misleading I think . I don’t see Helenius getting far at all if he fights guys like Martin he would lose as well but that would be a good match .

[kafkod]

I don't know about the Klitschko situation but I do know that Luis Ortiz signed with Matchroom in 2016 in hopes of a title fight with Anthony Joshua. No he didn't need three belts. One would have been enough.

After the Malik Scott and David Allen fights I know he left and signed with the PBC in 2017 in order to fight the other title holder Deontay Wilder. Then once he became the WBA's mandatory challenger of that same year; AJ chose to fight Carlos Takam instead of the undefeated Luis Ortiz.

AJ didn't choose to fight Takam instead of Ortiz. The IBF and WBA had talks to decide the order of AJ's mandos after he beat Wlad and they decided that the IBF should happen first, because it had been ordered first.

Later, Hearn offered Ortiz $7million to fight AJ and Ortiz turned it down.

[REDEEMER]

I don't know about the Klitschko situation but I do know that Luis Ortiz signed with Matchroom in 2016 in hopes of a title fight with Anthony Joshua. No he didn't need three belts. One would have been enough.

After the Malik Scott and David Allen fights I know he left and signed with the PBC in 2017 in order to fight the other title holder Deontay Wilder. Then once he became the WBA's mandatory challenger of that same year; AJ chose to fight Carlos Takam instead of the undefeated Luis Ortiz.

This is a lie . Takam was a replacement for mandatory Pulev who got injured it had nothing to do with avoiding Ortiz who terminated his contract under Matchroom when AJ was already signed to fight Wlad in 2016. They actually wanted Ortiz to fight Whyte as his third fight but he declined and insult to injury killed his own mandatory spot to fight AJ by fighting Wilder . Ha