Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: ESPN Stepped Up To Keep Lomachenko-Lopez Off Pay-Per-View

[Ajvar]

Minimum purses are approximately this:
lopez -300k
Loma - 1+ mil.
These are contract which they signed with promoter for years ahead. These are not the purses which they negotiate about some money bringing fights like unifications etc. Those can have different numbers and Loma on words agreed with Arum on a 3.5+ mil and decided to give 250k of his table to Lopez. Lopez, who asked for 2+ mil "negotating" which people justifiably considered as a jump.

[Ajvar]

How does a biased person describe how a neutral person reacted to Lopez request for more money and potential loss to Loma? Based on your post you don't like Lopez so your bias disqualifies you from such a perspective.

1. I don't like Loma too. Based on the fact that you didn't include such possibility that makes you intellectually inefficient and unable to discuss the subject or critique my words.

2. Even if I didn't dislike Loma but hated Lopez that still wouldn't nullify possibility of me acting like an adult self-respected person who can and does stand unbiased in his spoken words. Principles... something people like you don't comprehend.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

No you can’t fix your kind of ******. You’re a special brand of dummy.



Read the part in italics carefully. Better yet, get someone with an iq above room temp to read it to you then explain what it means.

Arum didn’t say that Loma took a “pay cut”. He said he took a reduced purse based on what he expected to make before covid. He said the same for lopez. You’re an idiot who can’t read.

Let me do this for you


6/30/20
https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/7/3...pn-boxing-news

Lopez reportedly “rejected a take-it-or-leave-it offer of $1.2 million” and is now “resigned” to defending his IBF title against a different opponent.


"Lomachenko (14-1, 10 KO) accepted a “financial package” in excess of $3.25 million “earlier this week.”

Lomachenko 3.25+
Lopez 1.2


8/8/20

https://www.boxingscene.com/lopez-ma...t-done--150770

At the moment, an Oct. 3 fight that once seemed to be a formality is trending toward falling apart due to Lopez balking at the $1.25 million purse he was offered, just as Lomachenko agreed to a deal to pull in excess of $3.5 million.

From Lopezs Laywer
“I’d be hard-pressed to describe negotiations. I haven’t heard from Top Rank in over a week. They are talking to the press instead of me. Top Rank knows where I am. They can call me 24 hours a day. There’s been very little effort from their side to get it done. We’re hoping ESPN, or somebody, rides up in a white hat and makes this fight happen. The total pot seems to be $4.7 million, and we’re going to need more than what they are offering us. We’ve been open and fair about this, and will continue to be fair. I just hope that is reciprocated.”


Lomachenko 3.5+
Lopez 1.25

Total pot 4.7


8/12/20

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndica...tober.amp.html

"Coppinger explained Lopez's manager, David McWater, negotiated with Top Rank "for weeks" when the fighter did not accept an initial offer of $1.25 million. He could make $1.5 million now after Lomachenko agreed to a reduced purse of $3.25 million from $3.5 million."

Lomachenko 3.25
Lopez 1.5

Your turn Goldie. And these are just a few of the sources!

Lomachenko took an intial cut and then a personal cut. Teofimo rejected the inital cut! And it wasn't until Lomachenko gifted him 250k of the original pot, STRAIGHT out of Lopezs Laywyers mouth may I mention was the offer accepted.

3.25+1.5 = "4.7"

The number straight out of Lopezs Laywers mouth.

You getting an education today?

[Goldie]

Let me do this for you


6/30/20
https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/7/3...pn-boxing-news

Lopez reportedly “rejected a take-it-or-leave-it offer of $1.2 million” and is now “resigned” to defending his IBF title against a different opponent.


"Lomachenko (14-1, 10 KO) accepted a “financial package” in excess of $3.25 million “earlier this week.”

Lomachenko 3.25+
Lopez 1.2


8/8/20

https://www.boxingscene.com/lopez-ma...t-done--150770

At the moment, an Oct. 3 fight that once seemed to be a formality is trending toward falling apart due to Lopez balking at the $1.25 million purse he was offered, just as Lomachenko agreed to a deal to pull in excess of $3.5 million.

From Lopezs Laywer
“I’d be hard-pressed to describe negotiations. I haven’t heard from Top Rank in over a week. They are talking to the press instead of me. Top Rank knows where I am. They can call me 24 hours a day. There’s been very little effort from their side to get it done. We’re hoping ESPN, or somebody, rides up in a white hat and makes this fight happen. The total pot seems to be $4.7 million, and we’re going to need more than what they are offering us. We’ve been open and fair about this, and will continue to be fair. I just hope that is reciprocated.”


Lomachenko 3.5+
Lopez 1.25

Total pot 4.7


8/12/20

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndica...tober.amp.html

"Coppinger explained Lopez's manager, David McWater, negotiated with Top Rank "for weeks" when the fighter did not accept an initial offer of $1.25 million. He could make $1.5 million now after Lomachenko agreed to a reduced purse of $3.25 million from $3.5 million."

Lomachenko 3.25
Lopez 1.5

Your turn Goldie. And these are just a few of the sources!

Lomachenko took an intial cut and then a personal cut. Teofimo rejected the inital cut! And it wasn't until Lomachenko gifted him 250k of the original pot, STRAIGHT out of Lopezs Laywyers mouth may I mention was the offer accepted.

3.25+1.5 = "4.7"

The number straight out of Lopezs Laywers mouth.

You getting an education today?

The fk is your problem? Are you mentally slow or what? Do you not understand English? The fk you are you even talking about?

The source confirming that loma’s minimum is not $3.2m Like you claimed is on the first page you ****** fk.

Arum acknowledged that Lomachenko and Lopez accepted lower purses for their bout than they expected to make before the coronavirus crisis changed boxing’s economic model. Top Rank’s founder pointed out, though, that the Ukrainian southpaw and the Brooklyn-based knockout artist still will receive more money than the minimum purses to which they’re contractually entitled.

^^^That’s a quote right from the boxingscene.com article on the first page.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bob-arum...r-view--151004


As far as the purse, I’m not denying that loma had to give up more money to lopez. He HAD TO give up the money to make the fight. That’s not a “gift”. That’s called making a compromise. If loma could’ve gotten away with giving up anything, he wouldn’t have. Lopez gets the credit for standing up can calling arum’s bluff although I think he personally should’ve put for even more.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

The fk is your problem? Are you mentally slow or what? Do you not understand English? The fk you are you even talking about?

The source confirming that loma’s minimum is not $3.2m Like you claimed is on the first page you ****** fk.

Arum acknowledged that Lomachenko and Lopez accepted lower purses for their bout than they expected to make before the coronavirus crisis changed boxing’s economic model. Top Rank’s founder pointed out, though, that the Ukrainian southpaw and the Brooklyn-based knockout artist still will receive more money than the minimum purses to which they’re contractually entitled.

^^^That’s a quote right from the boxingscene.com article on the first page.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bob-arum...r-view--151004


As far as the purse, I’m not denying that loma had to give up more money to lopez. He HAD TO give up the money to make the fight. That’s not a “gift”. That’s called making a compromise. If loma could’ve gotten away with giving up anything, he wouldn’t have. Lopez gets the credit for standing up can calling arum’s bluff although I think he personally should’ve put for even more.

My own words

All you quote has proven is that Lomachenkos guarantee is less or equal to 3.5 million and that Lopez has a guarantee that is less than 1.2 million.

So Goldie. Since you're always hanging around Lomachenko and you're always in the room and you know the know why dont you tell me how much Lomachenko is guaranteed?

I made my speculation based off prior numbers and quotes from Arum himself. How about you?

All the quote you put suggests two things.

OneBoth fighters agreed to less than what was expected pre pandemic.

That was a protection based on PPV possibilitie and a gate etc. Rumors had it "5 million/3 million" yet they agreed to 3.25/1.5[/b]

Two that both fighters will receive more than their minimum [/b]

So I've speculated that Lomachenkos minimum is equal or less than 3.25. Its also mentioned by other sources that his deal is a financial package and has increases for every fight.

Lomachenko mad 3.25 against Crolla and just fought in front of 18k overseas.

Tell me. Whats his guarantee? You have a problem with that? Where's your evidence?

Ho ho ho. Too funny. Spin this Goldie. Complain just to complain.

And you forget the best quote of all from the exact samw article that I sourced for you!

"I’ve never, in this whole time with the pandemic, asked a fighter to take an amount less than that is in their promotional contract."

-Bob Arum

If Lomachenkos minimum was 3.5 this statement would hold true. Especially considering the above which you clearly didnt.

Bob didn't ask Lomachenko to give Teofimo Lopez 250k to seal the fight. That was a voluntary choice.

And its funny how you keep saying Teo getting 250k is a win. Good for him. Extra money when he gets retired so he can feed his family.

Can't wait to see you come defend the guy who Canelo is about to face and tell everyone that the split isn't fair lmfaoooooooooooo

[Goldie]

So I've speculated that Lomachenkos minimum is equal or less than 3.25. Its also mentioned by other sources that his deal is a financial package and has increases for every fight.

You really think saying the same dumb sht over and over and over somehow hides the fact that you’re A bald faced liar huh?

Lomachenko took a reduced purse to relieved the company and make this fight. His contractual guarantee is more than 3.5 million.

You didn’t “speculate” about loma’s guarantee possibly being equal to or less than $3.2m. You blatantly lied and said that his guarantee was MORE THAN $3.5m. You lied.

Not only are you a liar, you’re not too bright. If arum says that loma’s $3.2m is more than his contract minimum then clearly his contract minimum is less than $3.2m not even equal to. Again, all the lies and spin you’re doing is to try and make loma look better like the pathetic fanboy that you are.

[JLC]

So then, what did this outcome tell you about Crawford?

That Teofimo Lopez is worth paying more and Crawford isn't?


I'll wait

Tells me the same thing no matter the fighter. Negotiate. If you don’t feel like your deal is fair you need to negotiate a better one. It can go one of three ways:

You get what you want and fight.

You don’t get what you want and don’t fight.

You meet in the middle and fight.

As long as you’re prepared for one of those three outcomes you’re good to go !

Teo didn’t like his deal so he said he would pass. No harm in passing up on that fight til he felt like he could get more money. He held out and got an increase of a quarter million. Felt that was good enough, now the fight is made. The end.

Good luck to Crawford.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I see Lopez ending up above 2.2 mil. If it's true they forced Lomachenko to reduce his purse by 250K, and ESPN stepping with 500K, plus incentives. If Arum only forced Lomachenko to reduce his purse, then ESPN didn't step in. Did it? It doesn't make sense.

The number I see for Lopez in the end is 2.2 or 2.3 mil.

Let the fighting begin now.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Tells me the same thing no matter the fighter. Negotiate. If you don’t feel like your deal is fair you need to negotiate a better one. It can go one of three ways:

You get what you want and fight.

You don’t get what you want and don’t fight.

You meet in the middle and fight.

As long as you’re prepared for one of those three outcomes you’re good to go !

Teo didn’t like his deal so he said he would pass. No harm in passing up on that fight til he felt like he could get more money. He held out and got an increase of a quarter million. Felt that was good enough, now the fight is made. The end.

Good luck to Crawford.

And the bold has happened with Crawford repeatedly and continues to. Yet he still is getting called the #1 guy. Explain that.

[daggum]

Tells me the same thing no matter the fighter. Negotiate. If you don’t feel like your deal is fair you need to negotiate a better one. It can go one of three ways:

You get what you want and fight.

You don’t get what you want and don’t fight.

You meet in the middle and fight.

As long as you’re prepared for one of those three outcomes you’re good to go !

Teo didn’t like his deal so he said he would pass. No harm in passing up on that fight til he felt like he could get more money. He held out and got an increase of a quarter million. Felt that was good enough, now the fight is made. The end.

Good luck to Crawford.

unless your name is floyd with winky and pac. ohhh wait time to change the money! no fight! i was just kidding!