Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: ESPN Stepped Up To Keep Lomachenko-Lopez Off Pay-Per-View

[JLC]

And the bold has happened with Crawford repeatedly and continues to. Yet he still is getting called the #1 guy. Explain that.

Ring and Boxrec both have Spence ranked as the #1 welterweight in the world.

But, if some places or people have Bud ranked #1 So what ? Not really sure how that’s relevant to the conversation of negotiating a deal.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Ring and Boxrec both have Spence ranked as the #1 welterweight in the world.

But, if some places or people have Bud ranked #1 So what ? Not really sure how that’s relevant to the conversation of negotiating a deal.

We have two fights. Loma/Lopez and (potentially) Crawford/Thurman.

Both fights involve Arum promoting the A-Side.

Both fights involve the B-Side wanting a certain payday.

In one fight the A-Side is so confident that he wins that he gave from his own purse to get a deal signed. Showing he wants the fight.

In another fight the A-Side won't do that.

Same promoter.

So...why isn't Arum telling Crawford to do what Loma did or sit out like Mikey?

[R-Hand Southpaw]

You really think saying the same dumb sht over and over and over somehow hides the fact that you’re A bald faced liar huh?




You didn’t “speculate” about loma’s guarantee possibly being equal to or less than $3.2m. You blatantly lied and said that his guarantee was MORE THAN $3.5m. You lied.

Not only are you a liar, you’re not too bright. If arum says that loma’s $3.2m is more than his contract minimum then clearly his contract minimum is less than $3.2m not even equal to. Again, all the lies and spin you’re doing is to try and make loma look better like the pathetic fanboy that you are.

What a ****ing dumb ass who doesn't know what context means.

In one of the articles I posted it literally said

"At the moment, an Oct. 3 fight that once seemed to be a formality is trending toward falling apart due to Lopez balking at the $1.25 million purse he was offered, just as Lomachenko agreed to a deal to pull in excess of $3.5 million."

And this is from BOXINGSCENE. BUT IM THE LIAR? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Too ****ing funny. Do you know what the word excess means? Lmfao!

Hey buddy. If you got some sources why don't you share them instead of trying to pick on the words and pretend theres no context?

I bet I'm using words too big for someone like you. Do you know what the word "speculate " means?

Is bet money you didnt read any of the articles I've posted or did any research yourself.

Let's see. I used readily available information to come to my conclusions and what did you do? You litetally make **** up in your head and pretend its true.

Arum said he has never asked his boxers to take a cut under their guarantee. Arum did not ask Lomachenko to take a cut under 3.5 million.

So. His guarantee is equal to or less thab 3.5 million. But I bet you don't even KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sources prove that. Yet here you are arguing with me about what again?

The only guys saying dumb **** over and over is you. I've quoted people who are actually close to the source.

Even Lopez Laywer which ****ing owned you. No wonder why you aren't talking about that right?

I've more than proved youre the liar but here you are projecting your own poor self imagine onto me.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

You really think saying the same dumb sht over and over and over somehow hides the fact that you’re A bald faced liar huh?




You didn’t “speculate” about loma’s guarantee possibly being equal to or less than $3.2m. You blatantly lied and said that his guarantee was MORE THAN $3.5m. You lied.

Not only are you a liar, you’re not too bright. If arum says that loma’s $3.2m is more than his contract minimum then clearly his contract minimum is less than $3.2m not even equal to. Again, all the lies and spin you’re doing is to try and make loma look better like the pathetic fanboy that you are.

Want to show me your source for this bit?

"If arum says that loma’s $3.2m is more than his contract minimum then clearly his contract minimum is less than $3.2m not even equal to."

Here's your chance to shine Goldie. Show the world!

Find me where he says, Lomachenko getting paid 3.2 million is more than his contract minimum.

Do it.

Come one Goldie it should be easy.

Because as far as I'm concerned Arum has only said that Lomachenkos guarantee is confidential


LOLOLOLOLOL


Let's see you do some mental gymnastics lmfaoooooooo

[R-Hand Southpaw]

You really think saying the same dumb sht over and over and over somehow hides the fact that you’re A bald faced liar huh?




You didn’t “speculate” about loma’s guarantee possibly being equal to or less than $3.2m. You blatantly lied and said that his guarantee was MORE THAN $3.5m. You lied.

Not only are you a liar, you’re not too bright. If arum says that loma’s $3.2m is more than his contract minimum then clearly his contract minimum is less than $3.2m not even equal to. Again, all the lies and spin you’re doing is to try and make loma look better like the pathetic fanboy that you are.

Here you go.

A quote already posted by myself citing the sources. But nah man. You didn't read did you? How do I know that you don't know what Lomachenko is guaranteed?

From Bob himself

"When asked if 3.5 million was a good estimate from Lomachenkos paycheck Arum answered with "thats not too far from the truth, although that's confidential".


"As far as Lomachebko is concerned he has a contract with us. A long term for substantial numbers based on the level of fights"

This is the best you'll get to Lomachenkos guarantee and how do I know? I looked.

What about you? you didn't do **** yet keep insisting that you're right.

Honest question Goldie. How do you live with yourself? You're that ****ing shameless? Of course!

Lmfao.

If Lomachenkos guarantee is less than 3.5 I bet you're gonna pat yourself on the back and proclaim you're right bit you haven't done **** lmfao!

All youve done is complain its not 3.5. Let me provide all the sources and evidence to the contrary yet havent given an answer yourself.

What have you actually done here Goldie? Are you looking for sentences to support your argument? You know context matters right?

I bet you won't even read this **** lmfaooooooooooooooo

You're calling me a liar but here I am citing all these sources. Youre the liar. Not only are you lying about the things I'm saying but youre also lying about the situation.

Come on Goldie. Double down and keep on doubling down. Admitting you're wrong is weak. You're not weak.

Lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Too fun playing with your LOW IQ

[R-Hand Southpaw]

You really think saying the same dumb sht over and over and over somehow hides the fact that you’re A bald faced liar huh?




You didn’t “speculate” about loma’s guarantee possibly being equal to or less than $3.2m. You blatantly lied and said that his guarantee was MORE THAN $3.5m. You lied.

Not only are you a liar, you’re not too bright. If arum says that loma’s $3.2m is more than his contract minimum then clearly his contract minimum is less than $3.2m not even equal to. Again, all the lies and spin you’re doing is to try and make loma look better like the pathetic fanboy that you are.

So when you refuse to post anything legit to defend your position or don't respond to what I asked im just simply going to allow you to take that L.

If you knew Lomachenkos true guarantee you would have already provided it. Yet here you are being a ****ing leech and not even reading the resources available to you.

I waste so much of my time trying to educate a dumb ass grown man like you but I guess the say is true.

You cant fix ******.

And that's what hurts you the most because deep down you know its true.

[JLC]

We have two fights. Loma/Lopez and (potentially) Crawford/Thurman.

Both fights involve Arum promoting the A-Side.

Both fights involve the B-Side wanting a certain payday.

In one fight the A-Side is so confident that he wins that he gave from his own purse to get a deal signed. Showing he wants the fight.

In another fight the A-Side won't do that.

Same promoter.

So...why isn't Arum telling Crawford to do what Loma did or sit out like Mikey?

I don’t think Arum TOLD Loma to do anything. But I could be wrong and am happy to be corrected.

Loma decided he wanted to prove he was the best bad enough to forfeit some cash. Respect to him. That’s his choice and he does get a lot of credit for that.

If Crawford isn’t willing to do that, so be it. He just has to be willing to accept whatever consequences come with that.

My honest opinion is this: I think Terrance is being a little unreasonable by saying he’s not taking ANY pay cut. And when I say a little unreasonable I do mean a little. He signed a contract and wants what he’s due from it. Basketball, football, other sports have shortened seasons where they don’t play as many games. They still get their same pay per game, it’s just less games so less overall salary.

Boxing is not like that. You get paid per fight. So Terrance won’t fight til he gets his minimums met as specified in his contract. That’s a bit extreme w no fans IMO but he’s within his rights to ask.

Teo didn’t take it that far, for my understanding. He said he wanted MORE money. But not the same amount as what he would’ve initially made with fans. He simply said the pay reduction was more than expected and he would rather take a mandatory fight.

Big differences here. Terrance is saying Hes not fighting at all until He gets ALL of his money.

Teo is saying I’m not fighting a top fighter unless I get a better payday than currently offered. And if I don’t get that payout I’m happy to fight someone else within the budget.

I respect both fighters stances, but agree Teofimo’s is more reasonable.

[Goldie]

Want to show me your source for this bit?

"If arum says that loma’s $3.2m is more than his contract minimum then clearly his contract minimum is less than $3.2m not even equal to."

Here's your chance to shine Goldie. Show the world!

Find me where he says, Lomachenko getting paid 3.2 million is more than his contract minimum.

Do it.

Arum acknowledged that Lomachenko and Lopez accepted lower purses for their bout than they expected to make before the coronavirus crisis changed boxing’s economic model. Top Rank’s founder pointed out, though, that the Ukrainian southpaw and the Brooklyn-based knockout artist still will receive more money than the minimum purses to which they’re contractually entitled.

That quote is from the boxingscene.com article on the first page.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bob-arum...r-view--151004

I’ve literally posted this at least 3-4 times. You’ve got to be the dumbest mother***er on the site which is saying a whole lot. I’m embarrassed for you.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Arum acknowledged that Lomachenko and Lopez accepted lower purses for their bout than they expected to make before the coronavirus crisis changed boxing’s economic model. Top Rank’s founder pointed out, though, that the Ukrainian southpaw and the Brooklyn-based knockout artist still will receive more money than the minimum purses to which they’re contractually entitled.

That quote is from the boxingscene.com article on the first page.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bob-arum...r-view--151004

I’ve literally posted this at least 3-4 times. You’ve got to be the dumbest mother***er on the site which is saying a whole lot. I’m embarrassed for you.

Lmfao.

You know. If you read what the author is suggesting then read the quotes you understand real quick that what he summarized and what he put to support that do not match

Buddy. context

Top Rank’s founder pointed out, though, that the Ukrainian southpaw and the Brooklyn-based knockout artist still will receive more money than the minimum purses to which they’re contractually entitled.

-written by the author

Quote used to support said position.

"I’ve never, in this whole time with the pandemic, asked a fighter to take an amount less than that is in their promotional contract. And what we’re talking about many times, at least in Lopez’s case, is more than we were required to pay under terms of the contract. So, even though they would get less than they anticipated, it’s more than their contracts provide [for minimums].”

-straight from bobs mouth

So who are you going to believe? The who wrote about what the guy said or what the guy actually said?

You're the kind of guy where 9/10 people disagree with you but you'll look for the 1/10 and proclaim your self righteousness. Dude. You didnt even read the article you just looked for words that supported your opinion without knowing the context.

Too funny. Tooo funny. I bet you also read headlines and believe them as truth.

Let's ask. Is Lomachenkos guarentee equal or less than 3.5. Its true. But you wanna argue over a number you don't even know.

This is why its important to be able to read and not just skim Glldie lmfao. It's fun seeing you try your best.

[JLC]

Lopez lost almost all neutral fan base support which if he looses will be crucial and all that for extra 250k. Yeah... a lesson, but nope... not the one you try to shovel here.

Nuetral fanbase support ? There wont be any fans in attendance! Who cares ? He gained a quarter million bucks.