I still don't care for female boxing

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  • Rockin'
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    #61
    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
    Yes, the part about being still amateurish, but her guts is something else. Did you watch her fight against McCaskill? I saw Lomachenko the same until recently, as far as the amateur style. Not easy to shake off.

    The other women in boxing I like are Claressa Shields and Mikaela Mayer.
    Have you looked at Lomas resume? He has fought better opponents than that chick has, and knocked out 70%+ of those guys. And you believe that Loma fights like an amateur? Fair enough, but you don't KO 70% fighting like an amateur. Loma is playing matrix type of stuff while the others are just playing chess........Rockin'

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    • BoxingIsGreat
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      #62
      Originally posted by boogbx
      Negative.

      I have to agree with the creator of this post.

      You wanna discuss sexism? How about women’s boxing being shoved down the throats of 85% boxing fans that could care less?

      I’ve known plenty of good female Boxers, trained in the same gym as a former world champ.

      Doesn’t mean I want to see it outside of gym sparring.

      But that’s just me, if others enjoy it right on, but don’t act like you ain’t a boxing fan if you don’t like women’s boxing.
      Don't watch then. It's simple.

      I haven't even checked out the Benavidez fight during the DAZN broadcast tonight, which I usually do. The fights were good.

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #63
        Originally posted by Rockin'
        Have you looked at Lomas resume? He has fought better opponents than that chick has, and knocked out 70%+ of those guys. And you believe that Loma fights like an amateur? Fair enough, but you don't KO 70% fighting like an amateur. Loma is playing matrix type of stuff while the others are just playing chess........Rockin'
        Not anymore. He kinda outgrew that style now.

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        • boogbx
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          #64
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
          Don't watch then. It's simple.

          I haven't even checked out the Benavidez fight during the DAZN broadcast tonight, which I usually do. The fights were good.
          I don’t, just responding to your incorrect statement that you ain’t a fan if you don’t wanna watch women’s boxing.

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          • Blond Beast
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            #65
            Originally posted by Articulateboxin
            Maybe you missed the point I made about fundamentals. These girls in MMA have likely been taking Judo / Karate classes since they were 5 years old. So by the time they reach the age of turning pro in MMA, they're probably studying something more offensive like jujitsu, however their fundamentals have 15 years of training. The vast majority of women in boxing, pick it up very late. That was also the point I was making about guys in bar fights being clueless and still not being great after 2 years of training them. Female MMA is in its infancy, but women learning to kick and fight from young ages, is not. Females going to a boxing gym as a kid, is very rare.

            Of course there are standouts (AJ and Wilder started boxing very late) but generally speaking, it's the fundamentals that stop boxers looking white collar.

            I hear you. I don’t know what the right age is for kids to start sparing or hitting each other in any combat sport. But I see more devastating strikes, blood, knockouts, injuries in female mma, so training for a career in that can’t be more scary than boxing. I just think mma is a better showcase for females, and the popularity proves it. Females look to it because there have been stars, and excitement, and the skill level is high, good opponents, exposure. The fights are bloody bad they don’t quit.,The girls often take more punishment, because there’s hardly the one punch KO. I appreciate it. We need more female boxers, athletes. But we need to give them a reason. They need to find a way to make it more exciting, more possibility of stoppages. I think they need smaller lighter gloves, that’s all I can think off. I don’t want to see anyone get seriously hurt ever, but HWs get overpaid because there’s a chance of the hardest KOs. Yes the quality and pool is small for female boxing but girls have proved that they love to fight so if it can be tweaked so it can generate the most exciting fights possible then that’s what it needs. It needs a KO star. It needs a really great talent who makes money. It needs to make girls want to join up. I get it though, Rousey got to be a star by being great at an arm bar, a submission. No strikes needed. She’s still tough as hell. But a female boxer doesn’t get that option. But mma has evolved past Rousey already. I think Nunes is one of the best punchers on the planet. Picked her to destroy Cyborg, love seeing her fight. Female boxing needs to be able to make stars. They need KOs then the fans will want them to have more time.

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              #66
              Originally posted by denium
              Apologies to anyone offended by this thread, I've been up all night drinking.



              Yeah but at least you know that those two can actually do damage to each other.
              Certainly you should give credit for heart and courage to go in there and at least try to make it look like a fight when you're dealing with a biological lack of power on both sides.

              I've yet to see any female except Shields do what Joshua did, which for someone of his stature, was downright embarrassing in comparison to the women (except Shields, the Erislandy Lara of the women's division).

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              • TheMyspaceDayz
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                #67
                MMA audiences gave female MMA a chance and because of this patience it has grown to the point where the best could blast three of your sweaty, potato chips eatin asses at the same time. Boxing is full of sexist dinosaurs that need to start being ignored.

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                • Nash out
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                  #68
                  I enjoy the top woman's fights. There has been a few over the last 3/4 weeks and have enjoyed them all. Taylor vs Persoon was the best female fight I have seen and honestly one of the best fights for entertainment and drama I have seen. Would I rather watch them over Joshua vs Fury? Hell no. Fury is the biggest start in boxing for me and Joshua is still world class and a test. But I can't see how anyone who watched Taylor vs Persoon live couldn't have enjoyed that? I had Persoon winning 96-94.

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                  • Blond Beast
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Nash out
                    I enjoy the top woman's fights. There has been a few over the last 3/4 weeks and have enjoyed them all. Taylor vs Persoon was the best female fight I have seen and honestly one of the best fights for entertainment and drama I have seen. Would I rather watch them over Joshua vs Fury? Hell no. Fury is the biggest start in boxing for me and Joshua is still world class and a test. But I can't see how anyone who watched Taylor vs Persoon live couldn't have enjoyed that? I had Persoon winning 96-94.
                    I agree that was an entertaining fight. I had Persoon winning it also myself. I know there’s a lot of “controversial” decisions in boxing, mma, heck anything with a scoring system. It’s just part of it, and eye witnesses have proven to see things “differently” even compared to the person standing next to them. That also begs that if female boxing and especially when the best fight each other has a higher chance of going to the cards, then there’s more chances for “controversial” decisions. Which frustrates fans, and is definitely a put off to that all important fringe market who likes to say that everything is fixed. Id like to see more lighter weight females fight ( same with the lightest weights for men ). There’s gotta be a bigger pool of females that fit into that category? Fighters forced to be in perfect shape, lean and hard to make the weight? If Knockouts aren’t going to be a huge part of female boxing then I’d love to see at least the fastest and most skilled more often. I just think female boxing has sum catching up to do compared to a lot of sports and I’d like to see it get there. That’s more high level boxing for us.

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                    • daggum
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                      #70
                      womens boxing takes up maybe 2 percent of the boxing on american networks...or in other words STOP SHOVING IT DOWN OUR THROATS!

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