The most legitimate sanctioning body: IBF, WBC, WBO, or WBA?

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  • MulaKO
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    #51
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    They all suck for similar reasons, sh^tty rankings, sketchy mandos & run of the mill slick bs. It's a tallest midget contest & who gives a fook who's the tallest midget when none can get on the roller coaster any damn way.



    Lmfao
    But great way to describe it
    None can get on the ride ; CLASSIC

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    • ShoulderRoll
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      #52
      Originally posted by Cypocryphy
      They have one belt, one champion, unlike these other "in it for the money" sanctioning bodies. I think they are the lesser evil out of the others.
      Bob Arum and Frank Warren easily manipulate their rankings. They are corrupt as fuck.

      Austin Trout is even currently involved in a lawsuit against the WBO for this precise reason.

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      • Cypocryphy
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        #53
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Bob Arum and Frank Warren easily manipulate their rankings. They are corrupt as fuck.

        Austin Trout is even currently involved in a lawsuit against the WBO for this precise reason.
        Perhaps. It was transferred to Federal Court. But don't be surprised to see the case dismissed.

        The reason why is due to this:

        "And when (Trout) signed to fight Hernandez, he could not fight with Liam Smith [for the vacant belt]. Both Trout and Smith were removed (from the rankings) but Trout never requested that he be restored, which is his right to do so, and Smith [did request to be restored], and by our regulation we matched Smith against the next champion of the division, that was the champion of the NABO. Trout was simply committed to fighting with Joey Hernandez when the opportunity arose [to fight for the vacant belt]."
        Last edited by Cypocryphy; 08-15-2020, 03:17 PM.

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        • Ben Bolt
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          #54
          Originally posted by Marchegiano
          The WBC has roots to the oldest and most legitimate belts in the history of boxing including the first belt ever awarded. Literally everyone else is a copycat.
          This is absolutely nonsense.

          The establishment of WBC split what was once undisputed titles.
          The list you give of all great things WBC has done, is not entirely its own.
          WBC owes a lot to boxers, champion materials for ruining their careers, and less quality fighters, who have been used through the years.

          It’s easy to give examples of how WBC works.
          1) Wlad Klitschko was the heavyweight king for several years. WBC never seem to have heard of his name, as they never recognized him as a champion.
          2) If the World Athletics had worked in the same way as WBC, they hadn’t recognized Usain Bolt’s 100 metre world record of 9,58 sec, unless he had paid them. WBC would still have claimed (if Ben Johnson had paid the ‘sanction fee’), that Johnson’s 9,79 sec was the fastest 100 metres ever run.
          Last edited by Ben Bolt; 08-15-2020, 04:38 PM.

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          • Marchegiano
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            #55
            Originally posted by Ben Bolt
            This is absolutely nonsense.

            The establishment of WBC split what was once undisputed titles.
            The list you give of all great things WBC has done, is not entirely its own.
            WBC owes a lot to boxers, champion materials for ruining their careers, and less quality fighters, who have been used through the years.

            It’s easy to give examples of how WBC works.
            1) Wlad Klitschko was the heavyweight king for several years. WBC never seem to have heard of his name, as they never recognized him as a champion.
            2) If the World Athletics had worked in the same way as WBC, they hadn’t recognized Usain Bolt’s 100 metre world record of 9,58 sec, unless he had paid them. WBC would still have claimed (if Ben Johnson had paid the ‘sanction fee’), that Johnson’s 9,79 sec was the fastest 100 metres ever run.
            Every single entity that comprises the WBC during the formation of the WBC as the WBC is older than the WBA/NBA

            The NSC is the oldest with it's origin in the 1890s

            The IBU comes next in 1910

            Then the NYSAC in 1920

            The NBA in 21

            The NBA changes its name to WBA in the 60s

            Right after the WBA name change the NSC, IBU, and NYSAC form together as a single world entity called the WBC.

            Some how this formation of en****** that existed during Sullivan, Corbbett, Fitzs, Jeff, Hart, Burns, Johnson, and Willard's reigns caused a split from that title by coming together as one?


            Kind of impossible for the original bodies coming together to equate to them splitting a damn thing, but, even if if the WBC had, what do you mean once undisputed?

            The IBU had a World HW title, The NSC had a world HW title, the NYSAC had a world HW title, and the NBA had a world HW title.

            Beyond that, when we worked off lineal exclusively every single one of those champions has a champion we don't recognize as the man. Claimants are disputes, duh.

            So, no, there's always been disputes and the WBC formation settled three of four that used to exist.

            Form there the WBA split into the IBF and again into the WBO while the WBC only adds regions to its world banner.

            Edit- Let me just point out, the early 20th century being US-centrist doesn't mean that US centered mentality was not disputed.
            Last edited by Marchegiano; 08-15-2020, 06:24 PM.

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            • patron
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              #56
              In lieu of the recent heat on the WBA’s a$$ I thought I’d take a moment to recognize it got zero votes in this poll.

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              • Willy Wanker
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                #57
                To anyone saying IBF, I know their ratings and enforcement of mandatories has been very consistent, but that's all irrelevant when their rankings are complete sht. Somehow scrubs from obscure countries no one has heard of become number one contenders.

                Also, their mandatories usually get in the way of big money fights or unifications that people want to see. So it makes sense that a fighter would rather dump their IBF belt for a big fight rather than take on some dude named Sjfiqofifwkchenkowitz from who knows where.

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                • famicommander
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                  #58
                  They're all horrible garbage.

                  The TBRB is the only organization in boxing with any credibility right now.

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                  • Willy Wanker
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                    Add the choice: None. Then I'll vote.
                    Yup, good answer.

                    They're all garbage.

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                    • GypsyTRAIN
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                      #60
                      No option for "**** em all" so i didnt vote.

                      UFC/MMA is gaining on boxing because of 2 main things:

                      multiple champions (5+ "champs" per weight class) ...and there are too many weight classes anyway

                      corrupt judging...and there are no consequences for said bribery

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