The most legitimate sanctioning body: IBF, WBC, WBO, or WBA?

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  • El_Mero
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    #61
    Originally posted by Dean_Razorback
    at the moment? the IBF hands down. the WBA and the WBC are competing to see who is the most disastrous of the two and the WBO is top rank's belt.

    ps: the WBC is the most beautiful belt of them all, such a shame the organization sucks so bad right now.
    The WBA is PBC's belt....so.....

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    • Shadoww702
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      #62
      The Ring belt.

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        #63
        Originally posted by famicommander
        The IBF is the best at following its own rules most of the time, but their rankings are terrible and as a result they often end up disrupting big fights to force a mandatory against a bum. If the IBF had better rankings they'd be the best by far.

        The WBA is an absurd joke at this point, and is a PBC trinket at this point.

        The WBO is basically owned by Arum and Warren.

        The WBC is the best by sanctioning body by default, but that's a low bar and they're quickly becoming the next WBA with this Franchise nonsense.

        The Ring used to be the best championship-awarding organization but when DLH bought it he compromised its integrity.

        Right now the TBRB is the most credible organization in my opinion.
        Fixed it for you.....

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        • thedarkdragon11
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          #64
          I pick WBC because they'll have a belt with KingMay's face...

          WBA is a joke because of their dual champion policy... IBF is a joke when it comes to the quality of mandatories and they have 10-pound limit... WBO is a TR belt and their champions from other divisions can become a mandatory to another champion whenever they want to fight their division's champion...

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          • OnePunch
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            #65
            The only possible critique of the IBF is that the mandos are often weak. That is because the IBF doesnt just make you a mando because your promoter handed over an envelope. To become ranked #1 or #2 in the IBF you must fight an eliminator against someone else in the top 10. Most of the prima donna fighters will not do that.........

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              #66
              Originally posted by Willy Wanker
              To anyone saying IBF, I know their ratings and enforcement of mandatories has been very consistent, but that's all irrelevant when their rankings are complete sht. Somehow scrubs from obscure countries no one has heard of become number one contenders.

              Also, their mandatories usually get in the way of big money fights or unifications that people want to see. So it makes sense that a fighter would rather dump their IBF belt for a big fight rather than take on some dude named Sjfiqofifwkchenkowitz from who knows where.
              Again, the IBF rankings are complete sht because the promoters don't want consistent ratings and enforcement.

              They would rather be able to manipulate the rankings for their fighters so they steer them down the path of the WBA, WBO and WBC instead.

              We should encourage more of the IBF procedures in boxing. It's the scammer promoter mentality that we need to discourage.

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                #67
                I don't think it's that simple. Just at HW:

                WBO

                HEAVYWEIGHT
                (Over 201 lbs) ( Over 91.17 kgs)
                CHAMPION
                ANTHONY JOSHUA UK
                1 Oleksandr Usyk (Super Champion) UKR - Fine
                2 Joe Joyce (International) UK - Fine
                3 Joseph Parker (Int-Cont) NZ - Why? Because he beat the same guy everyone beats up? Chisora shouldn't earn you a top 3
                4 Andy Ruiz, Jr. USA - Fair
                5 Frank Sanchez Faure (NABO) CUB - Beat no one
                6 Michael Hunter USA - Draw with Pov is getting long in the tooth
                7 Luis Ortiz CUB - he's beaten no one.
                8 Zhilei Zhang CHN - Token Chinese? TF is he doing here?
                9 Evgeny Romanov RUS - No resume
                10 Efe Ajagba NIG - No Resume
                11 Demsey McKean (Asia-Pacific) AUST - Here because hopes and dreams doe?
                12 Agit Kabayel GER - Didn't this dude beat Chisora too?
                13 Fillip Hrgovic CRO - Of the beat no bodies he has the best excuse given folks be ducking him....how TF did Zhang and Romanov out rate him?
                14 Ali Eren Demirezen (WBO Europe) TUR - Another for the hopes and dreams?
                15 Tony Yoka FRA - I hear loads about him, doesn't change the fact that his resume is ass
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                CHAMPIONS
                ANTHONY JOSHUA WBA
                ANTHONY JOSHUA IBF
                TYSON FURY WBC

                IBF

                CHAMPION:
                ANTHONY JOSHUA
                ENGLAND
                Title won: Dec 07. 2019 Mandatory: Nov 30. -0001 Defended: Dec 12. 2020
                WBA: ANTHONY JOSHUA ENGLAND
                WBC: TYSON FURY ENGLAND
                WBO: ANTHONY JOSHUA ENGLAND
                SNO NAME COUNTRY
                1 NOT RATED - Why exactly?
                2 CHARLES MARTIN UNITED STATES - Why has CM been given such an easy ride by the IBF? Beat no one but don't let that stop him from getting title shots and high ranking.
                3 OLEKSANDR USYK UKRAINE - Yes, I can see how CM is the more proven fighter...****ing jack offs
                4 FILIP HRGOVIC CROATIA - 4? Christ buds, I get folks are ducking him but that doesn't mean he's actually beat anyone.
                5 JOSEPH PARKER NEW ZEALAND - Chisora win? Because Andy doe? Dude's done **** since Joshua beat his ass.
                6 AGIT KABAYEL GERMANY - We do like to place are unproven HW highly don't we?
                7 TONY YOKA FRANCE - Ditto
                8 ANDY RUIZ JR MEXICO - Yes, I can see how Yoka and Kabayel are far more proven HWs...****in' mooks
                9 LUIS ORTIZ CUBA - Totes more proven than Joyce, just peek his losses...
                10 JOSEPH JOYCE ENGLAND - Why so low?
                11 DEMSEY MC KEAN AUSTRALIA - Hopes and dreams back again, dude's done **** all.
                12 OTTO WALLIN SWEDEN - Him cut Fury doe
                13 ZHANG ZHILEI CHINA - Yay for China
                14 HUGHIE FURY ENGLAND - Chisora 2.0 except with 100% more boring as ****.
                15 MARTIN BAKOLE CONGO, THE ********IC REPUBLIC OF THE - Yay for Congo?

                WBA

                HEAVYWEIGHTOVER 200 LBS / OVER 90.71 KGS
                WBA SUPER CHAMPION ANTHONY JOSHUA GBR
                WBO-IBF CHAMPION
                WBA WORLD CHAMPION TREVOR BRYAN USA
                Won Title 01-30-21
                CHAMPION IN RECESS MAHMOUD CHARR LIB
                WBA GOLD CHAMPION ROBERT HELENIUS FIN
                WBC TYSON FURY
                1 DANIEL DUBOIS INTERIM CHAMP Weird to me given the Interim on paper is an equal title to the Regular so says the WBA but that hasn't stopped them from ranking a titlist
                2 OLEKSANDR USYK Sucks to get out ranked by an unterbelt the org doesn't know what to do with.
                3 LUIS ORTIZ Yes, I see how getting his ass kicked by Wilder twice and then doing **** all gets him in the top 3. Deontay? Nah, but Ortis doe.
                4 ANDY RUIZ JR I'm cool widdit
                5 CHARLES MARTIN TF has Martin done? Top five doe.
                6 MICHAEL HUNTER Who knew you could publicly avoid a fighter and still out rank him
                7 AGIT KABAYEL CON Every single list? Lot of respect for a guy who has done nothing to earn it.
                8 ADAM KOWNACKI How does anyone justify CM outranking Adam?
                9 GERALD WASHINGTON Washington has no place in any world ratings
                10 MARK DE MORI De Mori has no place in any world ratings
                11 JONATHAN RICE Who?
                12 FRANK SANCHEZ FAURE Oh Frankie don't fight no one is back.
                13 ZHAN KOSSOBUTSKIY INT Who?
                14 MIKE WILSON Who?
                15 LENIER PERO LAC Who? Obviously kidding with all them who's, I got the link right there, point is these dudes ain't even got the hype the other ain't done **** rabble has. At least Fil has some hype, at least Efe has some hype, no one but no one is even talking about Piero, well, except the WBA

                WBC


                TYSON FURY




                Country: United Kingdom

                Record: W 30 (21 KO) – L 0 – D 1

                Birth Date: 12/08/1988

                Pro Debut: 06/12/2008

                Won Title: February 22, 2020

                Last Defense:

                Social Media Accounts:

                INTERIM CHAMPION:

                DILLIAN WHYTE

                SILVER: Joe Joyce (GB) / INTERNATIONAL: Martin Bakole (Congo/GB)
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                PESO COMPLETO +90.719 KG / +200 LB
                Deontay Wilder US Fair
                Andy Ruiz Jr. Mexico/US Fair
                Joe Joyce GB Fair if not should be higher. Is he or isn't he Silver? If he's the Silver champion than he has earned a higher status in the org that Wilder currently holds or Ruiz ever held.
                Luis Ortiz Cuba At least he doesn't out rank Wilder here
                Joseph Parker New Zealand Good ol Joe, I don't think he should be so high but whatever
                Michael Hunter US Mikey is back with another undeserved rating
                Agit Kabayel Germany Yay for Germany
                Efe Ajagba Nigeria/US Yay for Nigeria
                Filip Hrgovic Croatia Yay for Croatia
                Tony Yoka France Yay for France
                Frank Sanchez Cuba Cuba got two didn't do **** contenders, double yay for Cuba.
                Arslanbek Makhmudov Russia/Canada Who?
                Dereck Chisora GB You can tell the bodies would love to rate him given everyone beats him to get a rating. I like Chisora but I kind of hate when he fights now. Means someone is getting in the top ten for beating Dereck for the millionth time
                Martin Bakole Congo/GB Yay Congo
                Charles Martin US Fair....way down here is fair.




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                • Scopedog
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                  #68
                  That's kind of like asking which mafia don has the most integrity

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                    #69
                    Have only one world championship belt in each weight class, period.

                    And only one set of rankings.

                    With only one, transparent rulebook. Compile it out of the best practices of the IBF with whatever tweaks might be needed to make it absolutely top notch.

                    Problem solved.

                    But someone will come along to say how they actually like having 4 world champions and unification fights.






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                    • DaNeutral.
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                      #70
                      IBF. worst 2 are the WBC and WBA but the WBA stands out at the mo for being the worst most controlled corrupt of the lot.

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