The most legitimate sanctioning body: IBF, WBC, WBO, or WBA?
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The IBF is the best at following its own rules most of the time, but their rankings are terrible and as a result they often end up disrupting big fights to force a mandatory against a bum. If the IBF had better rankings they'd be the best by far.
The WBA is an absurd joke at this point, and is a PBC trinket at this point.
The WBO is basically owned by Arum and Warren.
The WBC is the best by sanctioning body by default, but that's a low bar and they're quickly becoming the next WBA with this Franchise nonsense.
The Ring used to be the best championship-awarding organization but when DLH bought it he compromised its integrity.
Right now the TBRB is the most credible organization in my opinion.Comment
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I pick WBC because they'll have a belt with KingMay's face...
WBA is a joke because of their dual champion policy... IBF is a joke when it comes to the quality of mandatories and they have 10-pound limit... WBO is a TR belt and their champions from other divisions can become a mandatory to another champion whenever they want to fight their division's champion...Comment
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The only possible critique of the IBF is that the mandos are often weak. That is because the IBF doesnt just make you a mando because your promoter handed over an envelope. To become ranked #1 or #2 in the IBF you must fight an eliminator against someone else in the top 10. Most of the prima donna fighters will not do that.........Comment
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To anyone saying IBF, I know their ratings and enforcement of mandatories has been very consistent, but that's all irrelevant when their rankings are complete sht. Somehow scrubs from obscure countries no one has heard of become number one contenders.
Also, their mandatories usually get in the way of big money fights or unifications that people want to see. So it makes sense that a fighter would rather dump their IBF belt for a big fight rather than take on some dude named Sjfiqofifwkchenkowitz from who knows where.
They would rather be able to manipulate the rankings for their fighters so they steer them down the path of the WBA, WBO and WBC instead.
We should encourage more of the IBF procedures in boxing. It's the scammer promoter mentality that we need to discourage.
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I don't think it's that simple. Just at HW:
WBO
HEAVYWEIGHT
(Over 201 lbs) ( Over 91.17 kgs)
CHAMPION
ANTHONY JOSHUA UK
1 Oleksandr Usyk (Super Champion) UKR - Fine
2 Joe Joyce (International) UK - Fine
3 Joseph Parker (Int-Cont) NZ - Why? Because he beat the same guy everyone beats up? Chisora shouldn't earn you a top 3
4 Andy Ruiz, Jr. USA - Fair
5 Frank Sanchez Faure (NABO) CUB - Beat no one
6 Michael Hunter USA - Draw with Pov is getting long in the tooth
7 Luis Ortiz CUB - he's beaten no one.
8 Zhilei Zhang CHN - Token Chinese? TF is he doing here?
9 Evgeny Romanov RUS - No resume
10 Efe Ajagba NIG - No Resume
11 Demsey McKean (Asia-Pacific) AUST - Here because hopes and dreams doe?
12 Agit Kabayel GER - Didn't this dude beat Chisora too?
13 Fillip Hrgovic CRO - Of the beat no bodies he has the best excuse given folks be ducking him....how TF did Zhang and Romanov out rate him?
14 Ali Eren Demirezen (WBO Europe) TUR - Another for the hopes and dreams?
15 Tony Yoka FRA - I hear loads about him, doesn't change the fact that his resume is ass
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CHAMPIONS
ANTHONY JOSHUA WBA
ANTHONY JOSHUA IBF
TYSON FURY WBC
IBF
CHAMPION:
ANTHONY JOSHUA
ENGLAND
Title won: Dec 07. 2019 Mandatory: Nov 30. -0001 Defended: Dec 12. 2020
WBA: ANTHONY JOSHUA ENGLAND
WBC: TYSON FURY ENGLAND
WBO: ANTHONY JOSHUA ENGLAND
SNO NAME COUNTRY
1 NOT RATED - Why exactly?
2 CHARLES MARTIN UNITED STATES - Why has CM been given such an easy ride by the IBF? Beat no one but don't let that stop him from getting title shots and high ranking.
3 OLEKSANDR USYK UKRAINE - Yes, I can see how CM is the more proven fighter...****ing jack offs
4 FILIP HRGOVIC CROATIA - 4? Christ buds, I get folks are ducking him but that doesn't mean he's actually beat anyone.
5 JOSEPH PARKER NEW ZEALAND - Chisora win? Because Andy doe? Dude's done **** since Joshua beat his ass.
6 AGIT KABAYEL GERMANY - We do like to place are unproven HW highly don't we?
7 TONY YOKA FRANCE - Ditto
8 ANDY RUIZ JR MEXICO - Yes, I can see how Yoka and Kabayel are far more proven HWs...****in' mooks
9 LUIS ORTIZ CUBA - Totes more proven than Joyce, just peek his losses...
10 JOSEPH JOYCE ENGLAND - Why so low?
11 DEMSEY MC KEAN AUSTRALIA - Hopes and dreams back again, dude's done **** all.
12 OTTO WALLIN SWEDEN - Him cut Fury doe
13 ZHANG ZHILEI CHINA - Yay for China
14 HUGHIE FURY ENGLAND - Chisora 2.0 except with 100% more boring as ****.
15 MARTIN BAKOLE CONGO, THE ********IC REPUBLIC OF THE - Yay for Congo?
WBA
HEAVYWEIGHTOVER 200 LBS / OVER 90.71 KGS
WBA SUPER CHAMPION ANTHONY JOSHUA GBR WBO-IBF CHAMPION WBA WORLD CHAMPION TREVOR BRYAN USA Won Title 01-30-21 CHAMPION IN RECESS MAHMOUD CHARR LIB WBA GOLD CHAMPION ROBERT HELENIUS FIN WBC TYSON FURY 1 DANIEL DUBOIS INTERIM CHAMP Weird to me given the Interim on paper is an equal title to the Regular so says the WBA but that hasn't stopped them from ranking a titlist 2 OLEKSANDR USYK Sucks to get out ranked by an unterbelt the org doesn't know what to do with. 3 LUIS ORTIZ Yes, I see how getting his ass kicked by Wilder twice and then doing **** all gets him in the top 3. Deontay? Nah, but Ortis doe. 4 ANDY RUIZ JR I'm cool widdit 5 CHARLES MARTIN TF has Martin done? Top five doe. 6 MICHAEL HUNTER Who knew you could publicly avoid a fighter and still out rank him 7 AGIT KABAYEL CON Every single list? Lot of respect for a guy who has done nothing to earn it. 8 ADAM KOWNACKI How does anyone justify CM outranking Adam? 9 GERALD WASHINGTON Washington has no place in any world ratings 10 MARK DE MORI De Mori has no place in any world ratings 11 JONATHAN RICE Who? 12 FRANK SANCHEZ FAURE Oh Frankie don't fight no one is back. 13 ZHAN KOSSOBUTSKIY INT Who? 14 MIKE WILSON Who? 15 LENIER PERO LAC Who? Obviously kidding with all them who's, I got the link right there, point is these dudes ain't even got the hype the other ain't done **** rabble has. At least Fil has some hype, at least Efe has some hype, no one but no one is even talking about Piero, well, except the WBA
WBC
TYSON FURY
Country: United Kingdom
Record: W 30 (21 KO) – L 0 – D 1
Birth Date: 12/08/1988
Pro Debut: 06/12/2008
Won Title: February 22, 2020
Last Defense:
Social Media Accounts:
INTERIM CHAMPION:
DILLIAN WHYTE
SILVER: Joe Joyce (GB) / INTERNATIONAL: Martin Bakole (Congo/GB)
RATING
PESO COMPLETO +90.719 KG / +200 LBDeontay Wilder US Fair Andy Ruiz Jr. Mexico/US Fair Joe Joyce GB Fair if not should be higher. Is he or isn't he Silver? If he's the Silver champion than he has earned a higher status in the org that Wilder currently holds or Ruiz ever held. Luis Ortiz Cuba At least he doesn't out rank Wilder here Joseph Parker New Zealand Good ol Joe, I don't think he should be so high but whatever Michael Hunter US Mikey is back with another undeserved rating Agit Kabayel Germany Yay for Germany Efe Ajagba Nigeria/US Yay for Nigeria Filip Hrgovic Croatia Yay for Croatia Tony Yoka France Yay for France Frank Sanchez Cuba Cuba got two didn't do **** contenders, double yay for Cuba. Arslanbek Makhmudov Russia/Canada Who? Dereck Chisora GB You can tell the bodies would love to rate him given everyone beats him to get a rating. I like Chisora but I kind of hate when he fights now. Means someone is getting in the top ten for beating Dereck for the millionth time Martin Bakole Congo/GB Yay Congo Charles Martin US Fair....way down here is fair.
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Have only one world championship belt in each weight class, period.
And only one set of rankings.
With only one, transparent rulebook. Compile it out of the best practices of the IBF with whatever tweaks might be needed to make it absolutely top notch.
Problem solved.
But someone will come along to say how they actually like having 4 world champions and unification fights.
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IBF. worst 2 are the WBC and WBA but the WBA stands out at the mo for being the worst most controlled corrupt of the lot.Comment
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