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  • #81
    Originally posted by Oshio View Post
    So there was money in the Wallin fight and other tomato cans Fury has fought?
    There's money in all fights.. just not on the scale Fury can now call in if he fights AJ for unification..

    £100m+ with huge PPv or a bag of nuts and the usual couple hundred thousand views?.. it's a head scratcher isn't it...

    I understand Whyte is a Mando, but Whyte imo can do one. Fury or AJ (yes we know Whyte bottled AJ) fighting him beforehand is of no interest to me. I want the biggest and best fights and in this present time that doesn't involve Whyte..

    All this bull of if so and so is confident or so good then he'll beat him and then take the money fight is absolute nonsense when they can both go straight to the money fight..

    I may be wrong saying this but I don't believe for a second the boxing authorities will stand in the way of that fight unless we are still fighting behind closed doors and both boxers want some fight in between...

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Sayithowitisuk View Post
      So no undesputed then, that's sad. Will it ever happen again 🤔
      Tbh i dgaf about all the alphabet belts any more, them & promoter's are the poison diluting the sport & all they add is politics & take money out of the game.
      It will be Lineal or Ring heavyweight championship.
      I just wish 1 fighter had the stone's to drop all the belts & keep just the ring belt or reign as lineal.
      Ajs defined by belts & money so he won't. Could Fury be the guy 🤔
      Totally agree about promoters etc..
      I just wanna see a unification, after that they can do what they want...

      Someone will unify and they will make an Instagram belt, or Twitter champion of the world...

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Cobra Curry View Post
        You do realise that on his return Fury turned down a Matchroom deal to sign with Warren?
        What’s that’s supposed to mean?

        Hearns signed Luis Ortiz to fight AJ and it never happened!

        Hearns signed Serrano for the sole purpose of fighting Katie Taylor and yet she had to wait until Taylor literally had all the advantages and understandably had to walk away!

        Hearns had both AJ an Whyte and couldn’t get a deal done cuz they low ball threats to the cash cow!

        So you do realize just cuz Hearns sends offers doesn’t make it the creme de la creme!

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        • #84
          Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
          What are you talking about? AJ agreed to fight Pulev ages ago, that was because Fury was supposed to fight Wilder at a similar time. Now Wilder doesn't seem to want it and Whyte has been pushed to mandatory.

          Smh at these casuals...
          What are you talking about? Lol

          You seem lost, nobody cares about AJ vs Pulev except UK casuals and AJ fanboys!

          Just pay Wilder 28 mill and Pulev 10 mill to step aside and they can both fight while the winners either fight each other or Dillion Whyte!

          How does Wilder not want it when he refused a step aside offer?

          Just pay him more as the Fury vs Joshua fight is the biggest fight in UK history and strike while the iron is hot before Fury loses or AJ loses again!

          It goes back to what I said with Wilder vs AJ, Hearns made up so many obstacles to make a simple deal for Wilder but everyone didn’t have to go through as many loopholes as Wilder did!

          In turn we missed out on the biggest heavyweight fight of the century between 2 Giant undefeated KO artists!

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          • #85
            What a bad career move? If Tyson Fury relinquishes his WBC title belt to fight Anthony Joshua then it becomes vacant.

            Then Whyte and Wilder would challenge for the vacated title while in the meantime Fury loses his challenge to Anthony Joshua. I kind of like that scenario.

            Perhaps, we will have an undisputed Joshua/Wilder fight yet after all.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
              What’s that’s supposed to mean?

              Hearns signed Luis Ortiz to fight AJ and it never happened!

              Hearns signed Serrano for the sole purpose of fighting Katie Taylor and yet she had to wait until Taylor literally had all the advantages and understandably had to walk away!

              Hearns had both AJ an Whyte and couldn’t get a deal done cuz they low ball threats to the cash cow!

              So you do realize just cuz Hearns sends offers doesn’t make it the creme de la creme!
              In fairness to Hearn, Ortiz was absolute trash in his couple of fights under the matchroom banner. I remember watching his debut fight against Malik Scott and it was one of the worst fights I’d witnessed. Even that aside, Ortiz was still offered more money to fight AJ than he got against Wilder, yet still declined it.

              As for Serrano, what advantages did Serrano have to wait for Taylor to receive out of interest? I’m not close to women’s boxing, but my understanding is Serrano signed a three-fight deal with a stipulated career-high payday at the end of it. Why was it understandable for Serrano to walk away from her biggest pay check?

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
                What’s that’s supposed to mean?

                Hearns signed Luis Ortiz to fight AJ and it never happened!

                Hearns signed Serrano for the sole purpose of fighting Katie Taylor and yet she had to wait until Taylor literally had all the advantages and understandably had to walk away!

                Hearns had both AJ an Whyte and couldn’t get a deal done cuz they low ball threats to the cash cow!

                So you do realize just cuz Hearns sends offers doesn’t make it the creme de la creme!
                Ortiz stank the joint out not once but twice. He has also alluded to going the WBC route in order to bring a belt to Joshua table, meaning more money for him.

                Serrano has dragged her feet repeatedly over the Taylor fight, probably because she's a naturally smaller girl.

                Whyte, like Ortiz, has been pursuing the WBC belt in order to strengthen his bargaining position Vs Joshua.

                There's no way on Earth Fury got mega millions for the likes of Seferi, Pianeta or even the first Wilder fight.
                As the man himself said "you think you've cherry picked me but I cherry picked you".

                It's all about leverage in Joshua fight and fair play, it's worked out for him, but to say that Joshua somehow ducked him is wrong.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Bunch Pag View Post
                  There's money in all fights.. just not on the scale Fury can now call in if he fights AJ for unification..

                  £100m+ with huge PPv or a bag of nuts and the usual couple hundred thousand views?.. it's a head scratcher isn't it...

                  I understand Whyte is a Mando, but Whyte imo can do one. Fury or AJ (yes we know Whyte bottled AJ) fighting him beforehand is of no interest to me. I want the biggest and best fights and in this present time that doesn't involve Whyte..

                  All this bull of if so and so is confident or so good then he'll beat him and then take the money fight is absolute nonsense when they can both go straight to the money fight..

                  I may be wrong saying this but I don't believe for a second the boxing authorities will stand in the way of that fight unless we are still fighting behind closed doors and both boxers want some fight in between...
                  You’re missing the point that AJ-Fury won’t be viable until next summer at the earliest.

                  With Wilder hiding in a hole twerking somewhere, and Fury apparently in need of a fight this year, why can’t he clear up his mandatory in what would be the 3rd biggest fight out there for him?

                  Are you suggesting that Fury sits on the shelf until a fight with AJ materialises, instead of keeping busy with Whyte? Or are you proposing he fights another Schwarz or Wallin instead?

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                    What a bad career move? If Tyson Fury relinquishes his WBC title belt to fight Anthony Joshua then it becomes vacant.

                    Then Whyte and Wilder would challenge for the vacated title while in the meantime Fury loses his challenge to Anthony Joshua. I kind of like that scenario.

                    Perhaps, we will have an undisputed Joshua/Wilder fight yet after all.
                    I bet you do, because you know Fury destroys your boy in the ring.

                    Joshua or Wilder will never be the man in the division unless they beat Tyson Fury, and they never will.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
                      What are you talking about? Lol

                      You seem lost, nobody cares about AJ vs Pulev except UK casuals and AJ fanboys!

                      Just pay Wilder 28 mill and Pulev 10 mill to step aside and they can both fight while the winners either fight each other or Dillion Whyte!

                      How does Wilder not want it when he refused a step aside offer?

                      Just pay him more as the Fury vs Joshua fight is the biggest fight in UK history and strike while the iron is hot before Fury loses or AJ loses again!

                      It goes back to what I said with Wilder vs AJ, Hearns made up so many obstacles to make a simple deal for Wilder but everyone didn’t have to go through as many loopholes as Wilder did!

                      In turn we missed out on the biggest heavyweight fight of the century between 2 Giant undefeated KO artists!
                      Pay Wilder 28 mil to step aside?? Out of who’s purse? Fury already said he’s not giving Wilder a penny to nothing and as you say, Wilder has refused any notion of step aside.

                      My view is that Wilder probably does want the fight, for a payday if nothing else, but behind the scenes his handlers and promoters are trying to find a way out because there’s no way they can cover the guarantees on a third, pointless fight.

                      That 3-fight deal with DAZN involving 2 fights with AJ seemed simple enough and was more than he got with fights against Fury, so what obstacles are you talking about? Why didn’t PBC/Fox come up with a counter offer if they thought they could do better?

                      Instead, he was too busy with counting another man’s purse rather than looking at legacy and look where that has got him.

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