Is it really worth buying a PPV in boxing?

[GrandpaBernard]

And yes many undercards are crap

Boxing is a well-oiled money making machine for the owners and smart fighters

If fighter is the next big bad thing, why show him off in a fight against a no hoper

[Mushroom]

Works like any subscription service. I'm assuming you've got an app with Sky where you can access on demand videos plus live content? It's exactly like that.

There are actually a few people in the UK who do now have DAZN. It's on a global beta program with early testers. Not sure if you can still sign up.

I'm testing it in Australia - two months' free access.

Thanks for the reply! Is it like the UFC app where you still have PPV events that you have to pay for on top of the subscription?

[brettWall]

I've been in many homes to watch PPV boxing fights contributing my share with my buddies taking their turns to host the occasion. It's party time, food and drinks abound. Parents even bring their kids with them. It's festive and noisy, nobody cared watching the undercards, and you could hardly hear what the ringside commentators say. Little kids are playing, adults have food in their mouths and engaged in conversations with their respective group.

So yes, people buy PPVs just to watch the main card. But I agree, things have to change and fans need to start buying PPVs only when it involves many established names. Promoters/networks need to start spreading the money out, instead of just putting all that financial weight in the main event.

[Toffee]

Thanks for the reply! Is it like the UFC app where you still have PPV events that you have to pay for on top of the subscription?

No, just a single level of subscription and you've got everything on offer. That might vary between countries though due to rights already agreed.

I don't think they've ever really 100% ruled out PPV. Would be a big shift from their model though.

[Amber_TKO]

Because the best fighters actually compete so rarely these days (twice a year, tops) it feels like a more exclusive event when they do get in the ring. Way more exclusive than other sports. That's why promoters/TV networks can charge what they charge.

Going forward though, I'd love to see boxing made more accessible - I think that's probably the most important thing for the future of the sport. Getting more eyes watching the big fights & knowing more fighters. And I emphasize the big fights, because putting fights that suck in front of a bigger TV audience doesn't help anybody. I think some promoters get that more than others.

[rickJen]

So yes while I don't like all the PPV's, I also understand from a Business Standpoint it does help get these fighters Paid and yes a lot of fighters want their fights on PPV because it is MORE MONEY FOR THEM! Just look over at Loma vs Teofimo situation right now, if it was PPV the fight would be signed sealed and delivered. The fact that ESPN wants it on their Network and NOT PPV is playing a factor because it is asking for Teofimo to take Less than he and his team likely originally projected if it was going to be PPV

Don't know where you get this assumption that PPVs always sell.
They flop most of the times.

As I've mentioned in one of my threads, and I'll just repeat it here:

Networks would rather not do it on PPV, why, because they don't get
a cent due to the high percentage going to the distributors.
(Which is why subcription-based models are superior because
there are no middlemen, and the income goes directly into the
platform's, whatever it is, pockets.)

Only reason why they're on PPV is because of greed.
Greed coming from fighters, managers, promoters.

And so the way to convince greedy fighters is to say,
"Well, you get your extra money if the fight sells."

That way no one is to blame but them, like giving fans
a boring fight or a mismatched one. You get the point.

[sicko]

Don't know where you get this assumption that PPVs always sell.
They flop most of the times.

As I've mentioned in one of my threads, and I'll just repeat it here:

Networks would rather not do it on PPV, why, because they don't get
a cent due to the high percentage going to the distributors.
(Which is why subcription-based models are superior because
there are no middlemen, and the income goes directly into the
platform's, whatever it is, pockets.)

Only reason why they're on PPV is because of greed.
Greed coming from fighters, managers, promoters.

And so the way to convince greedy fighters is to say,
"Well, you get your extra money if the fight sells."

That way no one is to blame but them, like giving fans
a boring fight or a mismatched one. You get the point.

Even a Flopping PPV still brings in money for the fighter

150K PPV Buys at $75 is still $11,250,000

So what we fans call as a "FLOP" still results into extra Money for the fighter. Extra money they don't get from fighting on a Network

[rickJen]

Even a Flopping PPV still brings in money for the fighter

150K PPV Buys at $75 is still $11,250,000

So what we fans call as a "FLOP" still results into extra Money for the fighter. Extra money they don't get from fighting on a Network

Boxing is a business not a charity.
It takes lots of money to organize and promote a fight.
Not all of it is focused on the fighters alone.
Networks and promoters still have to make a profit
or break even.

$75 is too steep for a non May/Pac or similar and will only
attract more streamers, thus destined to be a massive flop.

Espinoza and Haymon knew PPVs are not profitable for everyone involved.
They're only doing it because it's easier to deal with greedy fighters
and managers with just the mention of doing it on PPV.

Haymon would rather do it on free tv if he had a choice.

[Gamer30168]

In general I say not really but only because I've always been very good at finding out where I can download the fight for free. PPV is worth it if you want to know the results of the fight in real time but if you don't mind watching the fight a few hours late then I've always found it better to just download it for free and then watch it even if I already know the outcome. Ideally I avoid watching sports channels or getting on the internet right after a major fight that way I can enjoy my free stream without knowing the outcome ahead of time

[Maya26UK]

Yes for sure