Teofimo Lopez: Stop Low Balling Me or No Fight

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  • KTFOKING
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    #181
    Originally posted by Cypocryphy
    The stadium announces attendance by the number of tickets scanned at the turnstile before a basketball game or boxing card begins.
    Like why are you doing this? Just stop. Do you know what comps are? The tickets sold plus the comps don't even equal to what the hell was announced. Stop believing that crap. They announced Spence vs Porter as over 16k in the arena when in reality the number of tickets sold were 12k. Seriously, for the last time what are you even doing here? No one collects more commission reports on this board than I do. For you to think somehow whatever is announced at the fight is the real number, you are making a fool out of yourself. Then you go on to post some viewership numbers of fights that were not even mentioned once in our conversation. Just completely started moving the goal posts.

    But I mean if you believe Lomachenko is THIS big of a star, I really do hope TR puts this fight on PPV. No reason not to then. It would be great, then Lopez can get his upside share and the fight can happen!

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    • Cypocryphy
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      #182
      Originally posted by KTFOKING
      Like why are you doing this? Just stop. Do you know what comps are? The tickets sold plus the comps don't even equal to what the hell was announced. Stop believing that crap. They announced Spence vs Porter as over 16k in the arena when in reality the number of tickets sold were 12k. Seriously, for the last time what are you even doing here? No one collects more commission reports on this board than I do. For you to think somehow whatever is announced at the fight is the real number, you are making a fool out of yourself. Then you go on to post some viewership numbers of fights that were not even mentioned once in our conversation. Just completely started moving the goal posts.

      But I mean if you believe Lomachenko is THIS big of a star, I really do hope TR puts this fight on PPV. No reason not to then. It would be great, then Lopez can get his upside share and the fight can happen!
      Then post your commission reports and not tweets. All you got is tweets? You're such a tool.

      This is what 6,000 people look like:

      This is what the Staples looked like that night:



      You've got half an arena seated for 6,000 and then with the Lomachenko vs Crolla arena you have people sitting in both sides. Even seated in the galleries. It's quite a big difference.

      Why don't you post your commission reports? You "collector." You're posting a tweet to which no one else has referred.

      Do it. I dare you.

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        #183
        Originally posted by Cypocryphy
        The stadium announces attendance by the number of tickets scanned at the turnstile before a basketball game or boxing card begins.
        The ticket scanner can’t tell if the ticket is comped or not, only if it is legit.

        Use your head. do you think 10k people at msg would only make $200k? That would be an average of $20 a ticket.

        Now, do you honestly think msg would have a boxing match and charge an avg of $20 a seat?

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        • Cypocryphy
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          #184
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          The ticket scanner can’t tell if the ticket is comped or not, only if it is legit.

          Use your head. do you think 10k people at msg would only make $200k? That would be an average of $20 a ticket.

          Now, do you honestly think msg would have a boxing match and charge an avg of $20 a seat?
          First off, it wasn't MSG, it was Staples in downtown LA. Second, if you take the comparables in addition to those sold, you still have 7,445 in attendance, much less than what was announced and reported in the major sporting news outlets.

          Moreover, if you look at what equals 6,000 people in a stadium/arena, it's only half, while at Staples you have people sitting in both sides of the arena, the floor area and also the suites.

          Look, if someone can give me something other than a tweet, albeit from Jed, I'll be more than happy to concede.

          Until then, I'm just going to move on. I think I've made my case here.

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          • KTFOKING
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            #185
            Originally posted by Cypocryphy
            Then post your commission reports and not tweets. All you got is tweets? You're such a tool.

            This is what 6,000 people look like:

            This is what the Staples looked like that night:



            You've got half an arena seated for 6,000 and then with the Lomachenko vs Crolla arena you have people sitting in both sides. Even seated in the galleries. It's quite a big difference.

            Why don't you post your commission reports? You "collector." You're posting a tweet to which no one else has referred.

            Do it. I dare you.
            Oh no, you DARE me??? Buddy, I've posted PLENTY of commission reports. Where do you think Jedi got these numbers from? He just made them out of his a$$?

            You said no one else referenced Jedi's numbers? Why do you think that is? Do you know you have to request the reports? And how long they take sometimes? Now go back and tell me when the articles were written. Hearn was involved with this promotion as he had Crolla and he was clowning the sales the entire week leading up to the fight.

            Only 5k paid for tickets for this fight. Stop being dumb. If you just are unaware of how this works then say that and move on. But you have to be the biggest moron ever referencing to the announced attendance over the actual tickets sold. JRock vs Hurd was announced over 5k yet only like half of those tickets were actually sold and the rest were comps.

            For the last time, move on. Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.

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            • Cypocryphy
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              #186
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Use your head. do you think 10k people at msg would only make $200k? That would be an average of $20 a ticket.
              You didn't read the numbers correctly. It was $560k that had been made. Most of the tickets that night cost $51.75. So if you consider that, you'd have 10,809 people in attendance. There were other tickets sold, such as the suites, which were about $310.

              I'm not vouching for those numbers necessarily, but that's what they would mean taking in the cost of most of the tickets for sale.

              I've said enough.

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                #187
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                You're a f-cking liar. You wouldn't allow yourself to be treated like this at all.

                Since when does "sh-t talking" factor into a business negotiation of a boxing match? You have to really hate non white people if this is your standard in business. By labeling black posters as black supremacists (not supremists you ignorant bigot) that tells me that your real issue is racial hate and bias rather than fairness.

                You don't care Teo could be getting screwed for obvious reasons. I didn't have any agenda. I didn't write this thread, I simply gave my opinion. I also have made clear that Loma deserves more. I did defend why I felt Lopez should get more-because the draw here is the actual fight, not necessarily each of the fighters separately. If you read all of my posts, I suggested 65/35 for Loma would be about right.

                I didn't see that thread and don't know why.
                Yo homie. You think this is my first day on this forum? Maybe youd love to recall some of our previous conversations.

                And teo is a draw. Says who. Did you provide proof?

                The fact is rhay Teo simply isn't a draw or nearly as big as a draw as you think.

                Why donyou think you consistently show zero proof?

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                • koolkc107
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING
                  Like why are you doing this? Just stop. Do you know what comps are? The tickets sold plus the comps don't even equal to what the hell was announced. Stop believing that crap. They announced Spence vs Porter as over 16k in the arena when in reality the number of tickets sold were 12k. Seriously, for the last time what are you even doing here? No one collects more commission reports on this board than I do. For you to think somehow whatever is announced at the fight is the real number, you are making a fool out of yourself. Then you go on to post some viewership numbers of fights that were not even mentioned once in our conversation. Just completely started moving the goal posts.

                  But I mean if you believe Lomachenko is THIS big of a star, I really do hope TR puts this fight on PPV. No reason not to then. It would be great, then Lopez can get his upside share and the fight can happen!
                  Do what I did.

                  Block his fanboy arse.

                  Because he and a couple of others here are complete wastes of time.

                  You can give them facts on top of facts and all the logic there is.

                  They'll answer with bullshyt, half-assed takes, and flat out wrong info...then swear it means something.

                  Save yourself the time and effort, they aren't boxing fans...they're dudes with a man-crush.

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                  • Cypocryphy
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by koolkc107
                    Do what I did.

                    Block his fanboy arse.

                    Because he and a couple of others here are complete wastes of time.

                    You can give them facts on top of facts and all the logic there is.

                    They'll answer with bullshyt, half-assed takes, and flat out wrong info...then swear it means something.

                    Save yourself the time and effort, they aren't boxing fans...they're dudes with a man-crush.
                    I doubt he will because he doesn't seem to be the cowardly type like yourself. You're clearly the type of guy that likes to say some dumb a$$ ***** and then take off running.

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                    • whollisboxing
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING
                      Judah was trying to get payback with Spinks though. A little different. He didn't have a belt at that time either.

                      To me, this isn't about the purse splits that are being thrown out in this thread. Whatever number he has on his mind, he should gun for it unless it is something ridiculous like say 3-4M. Lomachenko has his own deal with TR and he earned that. Lopez has value here as there is no other fight at TR for Lomachenko close to being as big as this one in the near future. Possibly down the line you can say Lomachenko vs Stevenson.

                      I'm still not sure why this fight just isn't on PPV. Let Lopez take the risk by getting upside depending on the buys. Can get a guarantee and then upside is determined in how well the event does.
                      That would be a fair alternative. I just hope the fight gets made because nobody makes anything if it falls apart.

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