Can Pacquiao eclipse Mayweather?

[QueensburyRules]

He is never going to beat spence and crawford, no.1. There are no ifs about it. Secondly, he is never going to match mayweather's accomplishments and wins. He also has quite a few losses to guys that mayweather would school easily.

- -U talkin' crackdaddy Sr or TUE 51-0 Jr?

What grade they drop out of?

[*TonyMontana*]

Nah...one is the moon...the other is the sun

[hugh grant]

He is never going to beat spence and crawford, no.1. There are no ifs about it. Secondly, he is never going to match mayweather's accomplishments and wins. He also has quite a few losses to guys that mayweather would school easily.

What wins are they exactly, cw with nel o or bloating jmm up?
Floyd hasn't ever beaten.anyone Pac lost to without cheating scales. The only thing we really know is Pac beats everyone more dominant ageing Floyd s wins badly.
Floyd lost to Castillo and maidana, dlh and Pac in many people's eyes so I doubt he schools the people who Pac lost to.
Floyd will get penalised for not beating Bradley even.once. And penalised for not fighting abroad. And not giving rematches. When you got home advantage rematches are even.more neccesary. Giving rematch is the very least you can do.
But Floyd didn't like a fair playing field

[boliodogs]

He is 41 years old so he does not fight nearly as well now as he did when he was 25 or 30 and at his best and in his prime. No b oxer is anywhere near at his best at 41. Being at least ten years past his prime thre is nothing he can do now because he is not better now. He is worse. That is nothing to be ashamed of because every boxer is worse at 41 than when they were 10 years earlier. Old man Pacquiao cannot go higher as an all time great because he is no longer nearly as great as he once was. He would likely take a beating from both Spence and Crawford because they are also great fighters at or near their prime. They are both much better than the Thurman Pac beat last fight. the only way Pac could go higher compared to Mayweather is to get Mayweather to fight him and beat Mayweather in that fight. i think Pac could do that but so far Mayweather is turning down a rematch.

[chirorickyp]

- -Already eclipsed him in the hearts and minds of the people and eclipsed early in the decade in all the Ring P4P records and division titles and eclipsed him in the number of PPVs from the git go, and was always the featured star of those PPVs unlike Prettygirl who started as the B side leveraging bigger names than him.

Why U ask?

Noob?

Fact. Floyd has hardly been hit in 49 fights. Amazing.
Fact. He couldn't fill any seats and and was the B side and as another person said, had to leverage bigger names than him to earn PPV money.
Fact. Manny lost some fights.
Fact. Most exciting fighter who's achieved more way beyond his weight class and size. Even more amazing.
It's a toss up. I'll go with Manny because I enjoy watching his fights and the other guy is so unsolvable defensivly he's boring. At the same time I praise Floyd for that ability I don't like watching it.

As far as making the most money and being the most successful it's Floyd by miles. That's the ultimate.

[famicommander]

9 times Pacquiao walked into a ring and left without a W.

Sure, you can say he got robbed against Bradley or Horn. But then you'd have to acknowledge the gifts he got in those Marquez fights.

Floyd fought 24/49 fights against world champions and beat every one of them, including Pacquiao. End of discussion.

[HewJohnson]

Wel Pac vs Floyd is already in the books as the best 1-2 of their generation and I consider them both top 10 boxers oat. It’s like Nas vs. Jay-Z.
It’s a shame Floyd didn’t fight Manny in his prime, that will always be a thorn in the side. That’s what drops points in Floyd’s case imo.

But if Manny fights either Spence or Crawford, and beats one of them...there’s no denying he’s top 5 oat. You can argue he’s already top 5 but that would solidify it and maybe have a case as GOAT ever.

He doesn’t need to beat both of them. That’s ridiculous.

[IronDanHamza]

If he beats Crawford alone then yes there’s no argument at that point.

If Spence shows he’s the same fighter he was pre car accident and he beats Spence aswell then he’s a Top 10 ATG minimum.

I doubt he takes either fight though to be honest.

[chirorickyp]

He is 41 years old so he does not fight nearly as well now as he did when he was 25 or 30 and at his best and in his prime. No b oxer is anywhere near at his best at 41. Being at least ten years past his prime thre is nothing he can do now because he is not better now. He is worse. That is nothing to be ashamed of because every boxer is worse at 41 than when they were 10 years earlier. Old man Pacquiao cannot go higher as an all time great because he is no longer nearly as great as he once was. He would likely take a beating from both Spence and Crawford because they are also great fighters at or near their prime. They are both much better than the Thurman Pac beat last fight. the only way Pac could go higher compared to Mayweather is to get Mayweather to fight him and beat Mayweather in that fight. i think Pac could do that but so far Mayweather is turning down a rematch.

Well said. The tornado of 2009 would have been a nightmare for Floyd. Everybody knows that.

[daggum]

no he never can. he got knocked out in one of his first fights. floyds zero losses will always be better than someone with a loss. resume doesnt matter at all. its all about not losing. protect the 0! old men, drained fighters, and overrated hacks floyd schools them all! and even if he loses the judges will say he wins anyway. wow he sounds so amazing!