Can Pacquiao eclipse Mayweather?

[hugh grant]

9 times Pacquiao walked into a ring and left without a W.

Sure, you can say he got robbed against Bradley or Horn. But then you'd have to acknowledge the gifts he got in those Marquez fights.

Floyd fought 24/49 fights against world champions and beat every one of them, including Pacquiao. End of discussion.

12 times BH walked into a ring and le ft without a win. And BH is greater than.unbeaten JC.

Nobody considers Floyd s unbeaten. Calzaghe is more unbeaten than floyd, as is Marcianao and Ottke. They never had decisions as controversial as floyd

[Divine Hammer]

he already has.

pac's achievements and career in the sport of boxing is far more legendary than floyd. all floyd has is his "0". thats the truth.

[QueensburyRules]

He is 41 years old so he does not fight nearly as well now as he did when he was 25 or 30 and at his best and in his prime. No b oxer is anywhere near at his best at 41. Being at least ten years past his prime thre is nothing he can do now because he is not better now. He is worse. That is nothing to be ashamed of because every boxer is worse at 41 than when they were 10 years earlier. Old man Pacquiao cannot go higher as an all time great because he is no longer nearly as great as he once was. He would likely take a beating from both Spence and Crawford because they are also great fighters at or near their prime. They are both much better than the Thurman Pac beat last fight. the only way Pac could go higher compared to Mayweather is to get Mayweather to fight him and beat Mayweather in that fight. i think Pac could do that but so far Mayweather is turning down a rematch.

- -McG made easy $ vs TUE.

He won't even return Manny phone calls because he values the stuffing Manny knocks outta him more than $$.

[famicommander]

12 times BH walked into a ring and le ft without a win. And BH is greater than.unbeaten JC.

Nobody considers Floyd s unbeaten. Calzaghe is more unbeaten than floyd, as is Marcianao and Ottke. They never had decisions as controversial as floyd

The only "controversial" decision Floyd had was the first fight against Castillo, which I believe he won anyway.

He beat everybody else easily. Again, including Pacquiao.

Get out here with your Sven Ottke nonsense.

[hugh grant]

The only "controversial" decision Floyd had was the first fight against Castillo, which I believe he won anyway.

He beat everybody else easily. Again, including Pacquiao.

Get out here with your Sven Ottke nonsense.

But you've not addressed my comments.
Asking can.Pac eclipse Floyd is even sillier than asking can BH eclipse JC

[Kuyukut]

at the end the name fraud jr (floyd) will eventually be forgotten and will only reappear by the mere mention of the name pac.

[Ritz Kola]

Never. Manny has too many losses, losses to bums, losses by getting KTFO, catch weight fights, cherrypicked fights, waited till Floyd got extremely old before fighting him, always made excuses when losing, fought old men, got gift decisions...
He won't touch Floyd- funnily manny knows this himself. It's why he's still fighting. It's the only way he could compete. Just like Foreman kept fighting as an old man because he was still reeling from losing to Ali. Manny is still fighting because he has something to prove after getting WHOOPED by the man he built his name off of! Manny is still cherrypicking fights strategically tho. There's a reason he looked shocked and terrified when Errol called him out in the ring after that Mikey beating. There's a reason Manny chose previously injured Keith who hadn't fought in over a year, then returned and looked terrible against a journeyman instead of honoring his word to fight Spence next. Same reason Manny fought old Shane Mosley when Shane called him out years beforehand and Manny had no good reason not fight him.
Floyd
1. Beaten Most World Champions (In history)
2. Most Consecutive World Champion Fights (Boxing History)
3. Never been put on the canvas
4. Never loss
5. Only had ONE close fight his whole career and it was his first fight in the division against the top dog division
6. Beat Most big names throughout his era, for the record most Boxers only fight 3 historic names- Floyd has fought over 10. Most out of any Boxer in history.
7. Had The Longest P4P Reign in Boxing History. Manny STILL isn't p4p #1 and Floyd has been retired for years. Sad.
8. Beat the #2 #3 #4 #5 #6-9 ranked p4p fighters throughout his career. Unlike Manny.
9. Beat the #2 guy of his era BY A LANDSLIDE. Had the guy hanging his story multiple times and making excuses. Same manny who said he had zero excuses and Floyd was going to lose and make excuses.

With time the racists and haters will disappear and the newer generations will have pure untapped access to the careers of both fighters. They'll praise Floyd after watching his career and researching who each opponent was...Manny will get praise but he'll also get a ton of scrutiny. Will upcoming youth 30 years from now give Manny a pass for cherrypicking 140lb Bradley and then losing to him? Will they give Manny a pass for fighting Algieri/Rios/Vargas/Horn and even losing to the latter? Facts are Manny turned down the Floyd fight multiple times because he didn't want to be tested for steroids. Will youth 30 years from now ignore that the way you racists and Floyd haters are? Or will the scrutinize it the way it always should've been scrutinized? Manny fought all those cherrypicked bums instead of Floyd because he didn't want to be tested for steroids, that's the conclusion future generations will reach. Because it's the truth. What about the number of gifted decisions Manny has gotten? Will they ignore that to make-believe Floyd loss 10 fights like you weirdos do now? I doubt it.
Floyd is top 3 All-Time and accurately TBE on many lists. Not only The Greatest Defensive fighter of all-time (so far) but also one the The Greatest Offensive fighters of all-time.

[LoadedWraps]

Say he beat Spence and Crawford does he go down higher ATG than Floyd or can he never overtake the man who beat him H2H

Never.

It's literally impossible. Manny could fight another decade and and still not surpass the greatness of Floyd. Manny will forever be known as the 2nd best of his era at best. Remember, remember the 9th of December...

[Biolink]

If he did beat Spence and Crawford I'd put him over Floyd on the ATG list. But as of now for me their head 2 head means more down the line.

[hugh grant]

If he did beat Spence and Crawford I'd put him over Floyd on the ATG list. But as of now for me their head 2 head means more down the line.

Beat spence and crawford? Nah, Floyd needs to beat nel o at 160 to be considered for a top 10 slot, but not above Pac still.
When you ask a Floyd die-hard to name someone credible who has Floyd top 3 you get no answers? Even Floyd fans don't consider Floyd top 20 ATG, but theyre a petty bunch and they just need Floyd to be above Pac at any cost, and be considered best of era?
But truth is Floyd simply isn't best of the era The fighter who did the most will be best of era and that's Pac. It's not floyd. You can't spin it any other way