Lomachenko Fought At 135 in World Series Boxing

[Larry the boss]

btw lomachenko was coming into the fight with gary russell junior at 138 coming up from 125.5 so how the hell do you assume he's coming in at 138 from 135? that's nuts

see for yourself https://imgur.com/a/uVcupU4

Manny would come in as a ww when he fought at 130, does that mean he is some huge guy now?? No weigh in weight and rehydrated weight simply means you are cutting less to make weight..

[Boris Spassky]

no the part you're missing is you're simply not able to rehydrate as much when you're coming up from 126 and only have 24 hours to rehydrate and he still managed to add 13 pounds overnight. Coming from 135 he's at least adding 10 pounds, he not as small as you want to pretend he is.

I don't have to pretend. Just because he rehydrated 12.5lbs once down at 126 doesn't mean he's doing the same at 135. So by that logic he should've been coming in at 142.5lbs when he was campaigning at 130, right? Except that didn't happen. He was coming in at 137-138 at that weight and 139lbs once. This really isn't complicated.

[Lonelystoner]

I do not get the hate for Loma, the guy is fighting any and everyone and I havent heard him make excuses or say outrageous things..The guy seems professional and a very hard worker who is dedicated to his craft. He has tremendous skill and talent, makes weight, is not in any headlines for outside of the ring antics....Why the hate?

why would pointing out facts be considered hate? all i'm pointing out is that he was fighting smaller guys at 130 and 126 now and he's been looking human at 135 which is his natural weight class. everyone is pretending this guy is tiny at 135 and giving him all this praise for beating so called bigger guys

[Lonelystoner]

I don't have to pretend. Just because he rehydrated 12.5lbs once down at 126 doesn't mean he's doing the same at 135. So by that logic he should've been coming in at 142.5lbs when he was campaigning at 130, right? Except that didn't happen. He was coming in at 137-138 at that weight and 139lbs once. This really isn't complicated.

you have no proof to back up your claims and your claims don't mak any sense. you actually sat here and guessed that linares rehydrated to 146 - 147 when his own trainer said he rehydrated to 144 - 145. So i wouldnt be expecting you to tell the truth when it comes to lomachenkos rehydration at 135 being only 3 pounds which just sounds ****** even though we both dont have any evidence. i'm being realistic, you arent at the end of the day. nbody goes from adding 9 - 13 pounds then all of a sudden starts adding only 3 as they get older.

[Citizen Koba]

the point is lomachenko is not fighting bigger guys ike everyone pretends he is, he's fighting in his natural weight class and starting to struggle

So where are your figures for his current ring weights? Mr Spassky above there has helpfully provided some unofficial weights which are roughly in line with what I'd heard which is that he's coming in maybe a little under 140. You're disagreeing, but I've not seen you provide any figures that contradict the ones he's offered.

And besides, just out of curiosity, you seem quoite impassioned about this issue - you mind if I ask exactly why it matters so much to you? I believe Loma is on the smallish side of Lightweight and might well be able to get down to 130, but won't be at all surprised if he doesn't.... but - so what?

And again if he's starting to struggle - so what? Isn't that what we want to see? Competitve match ups? That not a good thing? I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from at all.

[Lonelystoner]

Manny would come in as a ww when he fought at 130, does that mean he is some huge guy now?? No weigh in weight and rehydrated weight simply means you are cutting less to make weight..

manny pacqiaou came up from minimum weight and wasn't fighting at 135 before he turned pro, huge difference

[Lonelystoner]

So where are your figures for his current ring weights? Mr Spassky above there has helpfully provided some unofficial weights which are roughly in line with what I'd heard which is that he's coming in maybe a little under 140. You're disagreeing, but I've not seen you provide any figures that contradict the ones he's offered.

And besides, just out of curiosity, you seem quoite impassioned about this issue - you mind if I ask exactly why it matters so much to you? I believe Loma is on the smallish side of Lightweight and might well be able to get down to 130, but won't be at all surprised if he doesn't.... but - so what?

And again if he's starting to struggle - so what? Isn't that what we want to see? Competitve match ups? That not a good thing? I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from at all.

because giving me an unnofficial weight that you heard through the g****vine isn't something I'm gonna take as proof. common sense should tell you that if he was rehydrating to 138 coming from 126 and there is proof supporting that then he obviously is adding much more than pounds after weighing in at 135, especially since he fought at 135 in the WSB before he ever had a pro fight. I'm just making a point that he isn't fighting bigger guys. Idk what all of your passion and why does it matter statements are all about. If it doesn't matter to you then you dont have to be here.

[Boris Spassky]

you have no proof to back up your claims and your claims don't mak any sense. you actually sat here and guessed that linares rehydrated to 146 - 147 when his own trainer said he rehydrated to 144 - 145. So i wouldnt be expecting you to tell the truth when it comes to lomachenkos rehydration at 135 being only 3 pounds which just sounds ******.

I was going by Linares previous fight night weights. Some say he weighed 152 against Loma but I didn't go with that because I'd rather stick with the official average weights of his previous fights. He weighed 145.8 against Campbell and 146 against Arakawa. I did not make that up.


So why did Loma come in at between 137-139lbs max at 130 and not 142.5 if he was supposed to be rehydrating 12.5lbs?

Again, I make perfect sense, not my fault you're too ****** to comprehend it

[Lonelystoner]

So where are your figures for his current ring weights? Mr Spassky above there has helpfully provided some unofficial weights which are roughly in line with what I'd heard which is that he's coming in maybe a little under 140. You're disagreeing, but I've not seen you provide any figures that contradict the ones he's offered.

And besides, just out of curiosity, you seem quoite impassioned about this issue - you mind if I ask exactly why it matters so much to you? I believe Loma is on the smallish side of Lightweight and might well be able to get down to 130, but won't be at all surprised if he doesn't.... but - so what?

And again if he's starting to struggle - so what? Isn't that what we want to see? Competitve match ups? That not a good thing? I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from at all.

I'm thinking he's starting to struggle because he's finally fighting guys his own size and not marriagas, sosas, and rigos. It aint about level of competition apparently because he already lost to a salido and linares, campbell, and pedraza are not elite fighters whatsoever.

[Citizen Koba]

I haven't looked in the first post. You are correct.

Dug up some more information on that that I included in my post above, Turns out the first 3 seasons of the WSB were contested at slightly diferent weighclasses: 61Kg instead of the normal 60Kg but then they moved back into line with the standard Amaterur weighclases in 2014 which is where the confusion came from. Worth noting there though that the Boxrec weights given for the WSB are the weighclass limits rather than the actual fighter weights (ie Boxrec lists the weight of all fighters contesting at 60Kg as 132.25 and 61kg as 134.5 so all we know is that they didn't weigh more than the given figures).

Still learned something new though, which is always a good thing I reckon.