Lomachenko Fought At 135 in World Series Boxing

[BoxingIsGreat]

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Now all of a sudden people want to say he's fighting bigger guys because he moved up to 135 in the pros. They say he's a natural featherweight. Bull****. He in his natural weight class at 135.

Loma isn't at all too small to fight at lightweight. He actually looks bigger, I mean more compact, than Lopez. So I kinda agree with you here.

I think the only mistake in the thread title is the "135". You meant to say "lightweight" in the amateurs. That being 132. Still 132 is a lightweight at the pro.

[BoxingIsGreat]

the evidence is literally in the first post ****ing idiot. you came here to argue for your boy and didn't even read the post obviously. sit down clown

I haven't looked in the first post. You are correct.

[Lonelystoner]

Loma isn't at all too small to fight at lightweight. He actually looks bigger, I mean more compact, than Lopez. So I kinda agree with you here.

I think the only mistake in the thread title is the "135". You meant to say "lightweight" in the amateurs. That being 132. Still 132 is a lightweight at the pro.

When I say he fought at 135 I mean that's what he weighed in at. Technically he fought at light welterweight and WSB isn't considered amateur

[Citizen Koba]

Thanks my friend. I like that 10 lb range. I think it's a good system. Did Loma weigh in the lower or upper limit at weigh ins?

Not been able to find the figures, but we do know he was fighting at 57Kg or nearly 126Lbs (yeah it's complicated, Juniors and Women get a 57Kg Feather weight class, they ****ed around with it all in 2012 when the introduced women's boxing to the Olympics but they should be straightening it up for next year) in 2009 at age 22, so by age 24 I shouldn't be surprised if he was getting close to 132.

[Boris Spassky]

The featherweight division was scrapped from amateur boxing so how exactly is someone supposed to compete in a weight class which doesn't exist?

Lightweight in the amateurs is 132 not 135 and he weighed 129 in the ring for his pro debut which is 3lbs under the amateur lightweight limit and 3lbs over the pro featherweight limit. He bulked up a little after than but he still weighs pretty much the same as he did for just under half of his fights at 126 and all his fights at 130 and is usually the one giving away a significant amount of weigh, reach or often both or at worst weighs roughly the same as his opponent

Featherweight

Loma 129 - Ramirez 135
Loma 136 - Salido 147
Loma 138½ - Russell 138
Loma 134 - Koasicha 133
Loma 138 - Rodriguez 132
Loma 132 - Piriyapinyo 137

Super-featherweight

Loma 137 - Walters 136
Loma 139 - Sosa 142
Loma 137 - Martinez 144
Loma 138 - Rigo was 130 the morning of the fight in his tracksuit

Lightweight

Loma 138 - Linares. Judging from his previous ring weights he would've been 146-147
Loma 138 - Pedraza 147-148 as per a member of his camp
Crolla would've bare minimum had a 7-8lb advantage
And Campbell would've had at least a 10lbs advantage going by the weight Shane McGuigan said he would come in at

Even Gamboa who is a blown up 130 pounder has about 7-8lbs on Loma, the bigger lightweights like Commey are coming in as high as 153-154.

But to add some more perspective. Berchelt who has come in as high as 146 at super-feather, Tank who was coming in about 141-142 down at super-feather and weighed 146 for his official lightweight debut, and some of the other recent champions down at super-featherweight weigh/weighed more at that weight in the ring than Loma does up at lightweight


Loma 65.5'' reach

Campbell 71'' reach
Crolla 67'' reach
Pedraza 70.5'' reach
Linares 69'' reach
Rigo 68'' reach
Marriaga 67'' reach
Sosa 67'' reach
Walters 73'' reach
Martinez 67'' reach
Koasicha
Rodriguez 69'' reach
Piriyapinyo
Russell Jr. 64'' reach
Salido 67'' reach
Ramirez 65.5'' reach

The only other fighter ranked in the pound for pound top 10 who is regularly giving away these kind of physical advantages is Pacquiao

[Lonelystoner]

The featherweight division was scrapped from amateur boxing so how exactly is someone supposed to compete in a weight class which doesn't exist?

Lightweight in the amateurs is 132 not 135 and he weighed 129 in the ring for his pro debut which is 3lbs under the amateur lightweight limit and 3lbs over the pro featherweight limit. He bulked up a little after than but he still weighs pretty much the same as he did for just under half of his fights at 126 and all his fights at 130 and is usually the one giving away a significant amount of weigh, reach or often both or at worst weighs roughly the same as his opponent

Featherweight

Loma 129 - Ramirez 135
Loma 136 - Salido 147
Loma 138½ - Russell 138
Loma 134 - Koasicha 133
Loma 138 - Rodriguez 132
Loma 132 - Piriyapinyo 137

Super-featherweight

Loma 137 - Walters 136
Loma 139 - Sosa 142
Loma 137 - Martinez 144
Loma 138 - Rigo was 130 the morning of the fight in his tracksuit

Lightweight

Loma 138 - Linares. Judging from his previous ring weights he would've been 146-147
Loma 138 - Pedraza 147-148 as per a member of his camp
Crolla would've bare minimum had a 7-8lb advantage
And Campbell would've had at least a 10lbs advantage going by the weight Shane McGuigan said he would come in at

Even Gamboa who is a blown up 130 pounder has about 7-8lbs on Loma, the bigger lightweights like Commey are coming in as high as 153-154.

But to add some more perspective. Berchelt who has come in as high as 146 at super-feather, Tank who was coming in about 141-142 down at super-feather and weighed 146 for his official lightweight debut, and some of the other recent champions down at super-featherweight weigh/weighed more at that weight in the ring than Loma does up at lightweight


Loma 65.5'' reach

Campbell 71'' reach
Crolla 67'' reach
Pedraza 70.5'' reach
Linares 69'' reach
Rigo 68'' reach
Marriaga 67'' reach
Sosa 67'' reach
Walters 73'' reach
Martinez 67'' reach
Koasicha
Rodriguez 69'' reach
Piriyapinyo
Russell Jr. 64'' reach
Salido 67'' reach
Ramirez 65.5'' reach

The only other fighter ranked in the pound for pound top 10 who is regularly giving away these kind of physical advantages is Pacquiao

I will say this for the last time, we are not talking about amateur fights we are talking about World Series of Boxing fights which were not much different than pro fights so you explaining the amateur system to me was pointless. He weighed in at 135 for those fights and they were technically at light welterweight because WSB light welterweight division is anything under 141. Their lightweight division is anything under 132. I never said he fought at lightweight in the WSB i said he weighed in at 135

[Boris Spassky]

I will say this for the last time, we are not talking about amateur fights we are talking about World Series of Boxing fights which were not much different than pro fights so you explaining the amateur system to me was pointless. He weighed in at 135 for those fights and they were technically at light welterweight because WSB light welterweight division is anything under 141. Their lightweight division is anything under 132. I never said he fought at lightweight in the WSB i said he weighed in at 135

There is no featherweight division in the WSB either because they scrapped that too.

If someone is regularly giving away 7-8lbs bare minimum (as much as 10lbs sometimes if not more), 2-5.5'' in reach and would be giving away as much as 15-16lbs against the biggest fighters at that weight are they facing bigger guys are not, yes or no?

If many of the champions at the weight division below weigh/weighed more than you on fight night are you small or big for your division?

[Lonelystoner]

There is no featherweight division in the WSB either because they scrapped that too.

If someone is regularly giving away 7-8lbs bare minimum (as much as 10lbs sometimes if not more), 2-5.5'' in reach and would be giving away as much as 15-16lbs against the biggest fighters at that weight are they facing bigger guys are not, yes or no?

If many of the champions at the weight division below weigh/weighed more than you on fight night are you small or big for your division?

Your point is invalid, Kell Brook had one of the shortest reaches at welterweight and he was clearly the biggest welterweight at the time. Lomachenko is not giving up 7-8 pounds to anyone. Linares and his coach said after the fight at the press conference that Linares only rehydrated to 145. You said it yourself that basing it off past fights lomachenko most likely rehydrated to 146 - 147. You're doing a lot of reaching. Lomachenko is not fighter bigger guys only taller guys if anything. You can be short for a weight class and still belong in that weight class. Ask Shawn Porter, and he has to pull out a towel and strip naked half the time so again your point is invalid.

[Boris Spassky]

Your point is invalid, Kell Brook had one of the shortest reaches at welterweight and he was clearly the biggest welterweight at the time. Lomachenko is not giving up 7-8 pounds to anyone. Linares and his coach said after the fight at the press conference that Linares only rehydrated to 145. You said it yourself that basing it off past fights lomachenko most likely rehydrated to 146 - 147

No it isn't.

You didn't answer my question. If someone is regularly facing opponents who have at least 7-8lbs on him, as much as 10lbs if not more, regularly giving away between 2-5.5'' in reach, and would be giving away as much as 15-16lbs against the biggest fighters at the weight are they facing bigger fighters or not, yes or no? It's really very simple indeed?

I have screen shots of most of Loma's HBO tale of the tape graphics I don't just make **** up

No I did not. I said Linares would've weighed about that much judging from his previous fight night weights which I also have graphics of, Loma has never come in as high 140 as far as I'm aware. According to him he's still coming in about 138-139

[Boris Spassky]

The fight night weights are right there in front of your eyes, can you see?