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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Goossen: Fury Learned New Game In One Camp; Why Can't Wilder Learn To Fight Inside?

    By Keith Idec - Joe Goossen has a question for those convinced Deontay Wilder can't make the strategic and technical adjustments necessary to give himself a better chance to beat Tyson Fury in their third fight. The way Goossen sees it, if Fury learned new, outcome-altering techniques in just one training camp, why can't Wilder? The veteran trainer and FOX Sports...
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    Silly question. Gypsy cheat been boxing since he was a child. Wilder started at 20 after he failed at basketball.

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      #3
      Fury is bred to fight, it comes easy to him.

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      • Bunch Pag
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        You have to acknowledge you have faults, flaws and weaknesses before you can start to work on them.

        You also need a better game plan than 'try and hit him as hard as I can and hope he doesn't get up'

        Hopefully his camp have worked on something with him because I want to see a better fight. I don't want to see a one sided boxing match where one bullies the other round after round...

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        • Luilun
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          Big man with a pea size brain

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            That would be to suggest that they both have the same boxing IQ and they just haven't.

            Given Wilder's physical (coming back from injuries) and mental (taking such a horrible first loss) state; I can't think of a worse opponent than a super fit and confident Fury who's still improving and growing into the Kronk style.

            He needs the courage to hold his hand up and accept that he needs to rebuild or Fury could wreck him. Fury's in his absolute element in this situation and will thrive on mentally torturing Wilder in the build up.

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            • Ray*
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              Because Fury has a higher boxing IQ, He has been fighting since he was a child, he was born into it like Mayweather was....And for Wilder is mentality was "I only need to be great for 2 seconds" Lol.

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                Originally posted by Ant1979

                Given Wilder's physical (coming back from injuries) and mental (taking such a horrible first loss) state; I can't think of a worse opponent than a super fit and confident Fury who's still improving and growing into the Kronk style.
                Never knew he suffered so much from injuries until recently. That explains why they avoided the Joshua fight even with all the offers on the table for them. But at 35 years old doesn't that seems dumb now if they look back?

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                • Ant1979
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                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Never knew he suffered so much from injuries until recently. That explains why they avoided the Joshua fight even with all the offers on the table for them. But at 35 years old doesn't that seems dumb now if they look back?
                  I'm not overly convinced that injuries were the reason why he didn't get in with Josua. It wasn't like he was inactive, just risk averse. Same reason he never got in with Klitschko or even Whyte.

                  That title and unbeaten record obviously meant so much but now both have been ripped away in such brutal fashion I could understand him being in a dark place right now.

                  There's definitely a build up of wear on tear on his body as his technique struggles to support his obvious power and at 35 that's an issue. But I feel like he never really wanted to roll the dice, he didn't even try for a unification with Parker for the WBO.

                  He was more than happy to keep his status and '0' and carry on flopping bums. I remember him once saying in an interview that he wanted to beat Mayweather's record and retire as TBE, as if they even began to compare? This might be why he avoided fights with Klitschko, Joshua and even Whyte.

                  The Fury fight was the very definition of a cherry pick gone wrong and he's been out of his comfort zone badly since the first fight. He wanted to rush the return to stop any further Fury improvements and when that went wrong you get the impression he felt the writing was on the wall for him, just through his demeanor. It's even worse for him now, he's been humbled and humiliated while Fury is flying higher than ever before.

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                  • R.KHLMS4LIFE
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                    I been saying it for awhile wilder needs a decent inside game atleast nice uppercuts and needs to learn to use that jab as a weapon not just a measure stick as well as learn basic combinations even only 3 pt combo wilder needs extra wrinkles to game and basic boxing ability if truelly want to be great. With that power amd reach if only wilder had decent boxing ability or inside game then wilder would actually be super nice

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