When will we see America reign supreme in Heavyweight Boxing again?

[HitmanTommy]

Was chilling on the couch sippin on a 40 and smoking weed last night watching some old heavyweight fights.

All the respect in the world to lower divisions, but at the end of the day, the Heavyweight division is the absolute KING of boxing. This is not disputable.

Tired of other country's having complete control of the division when not too long ago, America ruled the division with an iron fist. Gets depressing knowing America no longer has a grip on the division.

Is there any Americans that I should look out for that makes the future look bright and promising?

[Larry the boss]

Where were your homies, and why were you not on the porch?

[HitmanTommy]

Where were your homies, and why were you not on the porch?

Cause the old lady across the street kept calling the police on us saying she wasn't able to get any sleep.

Yeah it was 3 in the morning and we were all loud and listening to some 2pac on the boom box, but bytch needs to get some earplugs or something.

Fkk that old bytch.

[famicommander]

Like it or not, the best chance we have right now is Wilder landing the bomb on Fury. Chances are Fury beats him again, but Wilder's right hand has a better chance than any other current American.

[Eff Pandas]

I think it's a rough go for US HW's from here out. There are too many options for big athletic guys in the US that are safer & have a lower barrier of entry to sexy money.

Big guys in the average country have less options usually so boxing IS their chance to make millions. Back in the day when there were less big sports & they weren't handing out the money boxing was the US was killing it at HW.

I also think the pussification of the culture here has played into boxing being less popular + I think US folks in general what things their way & boxing isn't Burger King with sh^t like that so the sport has less appeal to more folks than ever in the US that ends up extending to less people being pushed or pulled into the sport.

Mainly doe it's the options available to big guys that make more sense to their parents at the age of learning the basics of a sport that is helping prevent the best US athletes getting into the ring.

And the fact that two of the best US HWs around today are a failed basketball player & a failed football player support that stance. And sh^t there are probably a couple guys on the scene that switched over late from another sport that I'm not recalling.

[MartialMind]

I think it's a rough go for US HW's from here out. There are too many options for big athletic guys in the US that are safer & have a lower barrier of entry to sexy money.

Big guys in the average country have less options usually so boxing IS their chance to make millions. Back in the day when there were less big sports & they weren't handing out the money boxing was the US was killing it at HW.

I also think the pussification of the culture here has played into boxing being less popular + I think US folks in general what things their way & boxing isn't Burger King with sh^t like that so the sport has less appeal to more folks than ever in the US that ends up extending to less people being pushed or pulled into the sport.

Mainly doe it's the options available to big guys that make more sense to their parents at the age of learning the basics of a sport that is helping prevent the best US athletes getting into the ring.

And the fact that two of the best US HWs around today are a failed basketball player & a failed football player support that stance. And sh^t there are probably a couple guys on the scene that switched over late from another sport that I'm not recalling.

That wouldn't correlate with the rise in popularity of MMA or the UFC though.

But I agree the best big athletic guys are drawn to other sports now.

Francis Ngannou who is a genetic freak 6'4" 260 lbs in the UFC was working in a quarry mine in Cameroon a few years back before he got introduced into MMA in France.

Had he grown up in the US he probably would have been pushed into football based on his size alone and the other factor.

[Eff Pandas]

That wouldn't correlate with the rise in popularity of MMA or the UFC though.

MMA gives fans what they want. Boxing doesn't. That's an important variable.

Also it's worth noting even if it's off topic MMA isn't a sport in the same way boxing is. Boxing is its own sport. MMA is a melting pot of numerous combat sports.

Bigger US athletes typically get into MMA later in life through a more socially acceptable sport, wrestling, as kids. Wrestling usually isn't seen as being as violent as boxing. It's probably a 1000 to 1 wrestlers to boxers at the 8 to 22 year old amateur competitive levels of the two sports.

And if you look at the HWs in the UFC it's a bunch of foreign guys & US wrestlers. Or a failed other sports guy in Greg Hardy. No big guy in the US is going into MMA at a young age cuz it's not even a thing. It's a bunch of wrestlers who run outta options to compete after getting a college degree for the most part. If there was a competive wrestling league that didn't require you to put on a costume & fake fight I'd imagine there would be very few high level US MMA guys cuz they'd all be pursuing that option.

[The D3vil]

That wouldn't correlate with the rise in popularity of MMA or the UFC though.

But I agree the best big athletic guys are drawn to other sports now.

Francis Ngannou who is a genetic freak 6'4" 260 lbs in the UFC was working in a quarry mine in Cameroon a few years back before he got introduced into MMA in France.

Had he grown up in the US he probably would have been pushed into football based on his size alone and the other factor.

This.

Black kids in America who are athletic play basketball or football.

It's really hard to convey to people from other countries how unimportant that boxing has become in America.

You wonder why people are psyched about a 53 year old Mike Tyson coming back?

Because the last time that Americans really cared about boxing was in the late '80s when he was heavyweight champion.

Like boxing is less important the the NBA, NFL, MLB, UFC, tennis, golf, NASCAR, and even WWE now. More people know John Cena than say Deontay Wilder.

[Quicksilver*]

Football and basketball. Boxing can't compete.

[_Rexy_]

I've never known anyone who "sips a forty"


you pound that **** before it has the smallest chance to get warm.