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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #81
    Originally posted by hondamonkey
    Dude why bother trying to go back and forth? You’re talking to boxing fans who are most likely not Black American or even American.

    Most Americans don’t know their history. They don’t know the particulars of race relations and history and how it relates to how this country started, flourished, and continued to thrive. They don’t know about the laws still on the books and the policy’s across the states that oppress black people and latinos. Hell they don’t even know that racism was nurtured and nourished by White Americans looking to justify their oppression of blacks.

    Racism was essentially started on this land (look up the history of racism). Never before in documented history was a group of people put into slavery and treated as nonhuman only because of the color of their skin. It was always about class and religion. Black supremacy was initiated to counter KKK *********s and the laws of the land that allowed lynching and killing of innocent black folks.

    But here’s the point. Black supremacy is not racism. Black supremacy at its core strictly fights for equality with white people. Showing black people you can value yourself even though society doesn’t. I’m not denying that there are extremist who are black and feel that they are superior than other races, but the majority of black supremacy groups fight to defend their rights as guaranteed by the constitution.

    So if people call Haney racist it’s an uninformed and limited view of their own society. Was his statement ****** and discriminatory, yes. Was it racist...not from my perspective. Especially for a young kid growing up in the stop and frisk generation. Look that up too.
    If you are really fighting for equality then you will support fairness for all and no racism against anyone.

    This attitude that because others committed racism against you gives you justification to do the same thing as payback? It's wrong.
    And you are becoming what you claim to hate.

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    • Real King Kong
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      #82
      Originally posted by Goldie
      I like to mentally slap you dumb fks around. You’re an idiot and it’s funny to see you try and fail to troll.

      Why are you bothering “with all this” when you’re exposing your own ignorance and ******ity? Are you a masochist? This is your argument “well I wasn’t hurt or offended by Haney’s comments in any way, but you still could say it was racist”.

      Then you you have the gall to accuse me of playing victim.

      I don’t know what you mean by “you didn’t like it when people dismiss your viewpoint”. Look, I’m talking facts not “viewpoints”. I dismiss your “viewpoint” because it’s a lie. It has nothing to do with whether I like/dislike what you’re saying, what you’re saying just isn’t true. When you say that Haney’s comment was “racist” that’s a lie. I exposed your lie by referencing facts about what “racism” actually is. I even tried to appeal to basic logic and common sense but you don’t have much.

      I didn’t skip anything caveboy. I’ll even post it again for ****** a$$.

      : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

      Haney didn’t say or imply any of that. All he said was that he himself wouldn’t lose to a white boy. He said nothing about black people in general in comparison to white people in general. He said nothing about blacks being superior to whites. This is why you’re a piece of sht. Here you are reaching like Dhalsim in street fighter to paint Haney as a racist over a comment that you’ve already admitted you weren’t even harmed or offended by, but when I reference the systematic white racism that has flat out oppressed millions of black people for centuries you dismiss it.

      Again though, I understand your get down. There’s been people like you at every stage of American white supremacy. During slavery there whites denied the existence of racism. Same thing during Jim Crow. You’d have people in full kkk garb saying “racism? What racism? Blacks are just a bunch of complainers making excuses. They should thank us for slavery”. This is par for the course. There’s no shame with you people.

      Again, I’m amazed at how shameless you are lol. It’s like I’m talking to a monkey. We’re on 2 different levels of intellect where your level isn’t high enough to comprehend what I’m saying. I’ve explained how systematic racism works and you just don’t get it. At this point I’m just posting for whoever comes along and reads the thread.

      White people uphold the system of white supremacy, and that’s how you’re how you’re all complicit. As long as the system of oppression based on race exists, you’re complicit. If you don’t want to be complicit, then end the system. It’s really that simple. If the masses of average white people wanted systematic racism to end, It would end very quickly.

      For example, look at how whites have ended the stay at home orders. Cases of infection are still rising and so are the deaths, yet all 50 states have relaxed their stay home orders despite warnings from the government’s own virus task force all because a minority of whites have raised hell. Right wing alt right types grabbed their assault rifles and stormed federal and state buildings threatening violence against everyone from the police to their governors all over the right to go out and act irresponsibly in a global pandemic. Whites openly defy the government and challenge law enforcement’s authority when it’s something they don’t like https://ktxs.com/news/nation-world/d...er?jwsource=cl

      If they brought that same “we’re not going to take it” attitude when it came to opposing systematic racism then it would end almost overnight. They don’t challenge it because they’re in support of it.
      Lol...a long winded emotional rant, as predicted. The irony of someone who doesn’t see the conflict in being the one to anoint their own personal viewpoint as “facts”, basking in their self proclaimed superior intelligence is really something else. You’re a legend in your own mind my friend. In mine, not much more than another pseudo intellectual racist. But I forgot, you’re not oppressing me, so you can’t be racist lol. Well hey, I’m not oppressing you or any other black person, nor am I part of the “system” you describe because I’m not from your country. Is it all good if I call you a ni**er? I mean, by your definition, I can’t possibly be a racist.

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        #83
        What racial group has it the worst in America?

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          In my post I admitted to extremist among some. But that doesn’t represent the group and black people in general. Generally speaking, you have to admit that it is way more difficult to be racist as a black person than a white individual. That doesn’t excuse the black people that are legitatmetly racist. With that said, because of our history and the actual events going on today you can’t ask black people across the board to play fair when they still literally are in a chokehold.

          To be black in America means to be at the bottom of society. No matter how rich or famous some of its members are, the everyday black person is still viewed as inferior by the greater society.

          In most societies in which ***s were victims of antisemitism, they made exceptions in societal allowances for the ***s because of the sins of their past (ie Germany). This makes all the difference. America has yet to reach there. We’ve been downplaying our sins and as a result we still can’t play fair. And black people for all the insults thrown at the community as a whole disregarding our ability to band together as one. It’s nonsense. We, like the ***s, feel the burden of when any black person experiences racism in this country.

          Call Haney a racist if you want. And flip the script as if black people are the bad guys now. If that’s how you really feel then you’re living in a bubble and are blinded by your own ignorance. I’d never pretend to know how ***s feel but damn it’s got to be easier than having black skin. I don’t expect white people to ever understand what it feels like to be black. There’s nothing to debate dude. Agree to disagree.
          Last edited by Punch on Tap; 05-21-2020, 06:03 AM.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Real King Kong
            Lol...a long winded emotional rant, as predicted. The irony of someone who doesn’t see the conflict in being the one to anoint their own personal viewpoint as “facts”, basking in their self proclaimed superior intelligence is really something else. You’re a legend in your own mind my friend. In mine, not much more than another pseudo intellectual racist. But I forgot, you’re not oppressing me, so you can’t be racist lol. Well hey, I’m not oppressing you or any other black person, nor am I part of the “system” you describe because I’m not from your country. Is it all good if I call you a ni**er? I mean, by your definition, I can’t possibly be a racist.
            Talk about “emotional”, look how you just abandoned the topic of Haney and whether his comments qualify as racist or not just to play this tit for tat game with me.

            If you’re not upholding systematic white supremacy then no, you wouldn’t be racist. We all know that’s not true tho. To prove me wrong, just let it be known what country you’re claiming and we can let the facts settle it lol. Again, I’m all about the facts not “viewpoints”. We can verify if your country maintains a system of white supremacy or not.

            Unlike like you, I’m not a pussC who whines/complains about name calling and sht talking. You can call me whatever name you want if it makes you feel better. You’re calling me/us those names when we’re not around anyway lol. I couldn’t care less about some caveman talking sht or using racial slurs. I only care about the systematic oppression that backs up and enforces your racism because without the system, you cowards aren’t sht. I bet you don’t even have the courage to be honest about what country you’re from.

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            • TMLT87
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              #86
              He should've just owned it. He still thinks and feels that way.

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              • Real King Kong
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                #87
                Originally posted by Goldie
                Talk about “emotional”, look how you just abandoned the topic of Haney and whether his comments qualify as racist or not just to play this tit for tat game with me.

                If you’re not upholding systematic white supremacy then no, you wouldn’t be racist. We all know that’s not true tho. To prove me wrong, just let it be known what country you’re claiming and we can let the facts settle it lol. Again, I’m all about the facts not “viewpoints”. We can verify if your country maintains a system of white supremacy or not.

                Unlike like you, I’m not a pussC who whines/complains about name calling and sht talking. You can call me whatever name you want if it makes you feel better. You’re calling me/us those names when we’re not around anyway lol. I couldn’t care less about some caveman talking sht or using racial slurs. I only care about the systematic oppression that backs up and enforces your racism because without the system, you cowards aren’t sht. I bet you don’t even have the courage to be honest about what country you’re from.
                You’re still can’t quite grasp that you yourself are the one deeming your own interpretations as “facts”. There’s an issue of cognitive bias there.

                You seem to be trying to redefine racism in a way that alleviates any accountability on your end, while still being able to point the finger at whoever you want.

                Call me all the names you want and keep telling yourself that “without this, you cowards wouldn’t have that” etc. Some people do what they have to do in the world and flourish as a result, some blame others for their own ineptitude and indolence.

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                • Goldie
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Real King Kong
                  You’re still can’t quite grasp that you yourself are the one deeming your own interpretations as “facts”. There’s an issue of cognitive bias there.

                  You seem to be trying to redefine racism in a way that alleviates any accountability on your end, while still being able to point the finger at whoever you want.

                  Call me all the names you want and keep telling yourself that “without this, you cowards wouldn’t have that” etc. Some people do what they have to do in the world and flourish as a result, some blame others for their own ineptitude and indolence.
                  Notice how this coward didn’t name the country he’s from/in lol.

                  I live in the richest and most powerful country in the world, and every single day the president(And the whites he represents) gets in front of a podium or goes on Twitter to whine about how badly he’s treated and to blame others for all of the problems going on in the country. Populism is rising all over Europe with whites blaming/scapegoating migrants for their ills. There’s a reason that you refuse to say where you’re from and it’s because it’s a systematically white supremacist country just like all white countries are.

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                  • Real King Kong
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Goldie
                    Notice how this coward didn’t name the country he’s from/in lol.

                    I live in the richest and most powerful country in the world, and every single day the president(And the whites he represents) gets in front of a podium or goes on Twitter to whine about how badly he’s treated and to blame others for all of the problems going on in the country. Populism is rising all over Europe with whites blaming/scapegoating migrants for their ills. There’s a reason that you refuse to say where you’re from and it’s because it’s a systematically white supremacist country just like all white countries are.
                    Not sure what audience you think you’re posting for lol.

                    “All white countries are white supremacist” lol. I’ll assume that you don’t even know the names of “all” the “white” countries in the world, let alone their demographic or socioeconomic makeup. Interesting how many non-whites flock to these white supremacist countries. What’s your excuse for the influx of rich non-white immigrants who receive all the same benefits of whites in all these “whites supremacist” countries. Or all the non-whites in prominent political positions in these countries?

                    So much of what you summarily blame racism for, are economic issues. I bet you don’t give a damn about the droves of poor white people in your country who echo much of the same issues. You’ve already decided that everything is about race, and only look for “evidence” to support what you already “know”. Keep sounding off in your echo chamber.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Real King Kong
                      Not sure what audience you think you’re posting for lol.

                      “All white countries are white supremacist” lol. I’ll assume that you don’t even know the names of “all” the “white” countries in the world, let alone their demographic or socioeconomic makeup. Interesting how many non-whites flock to these white supremacist countries. What’s your excuse for the influx of rich non-white immigrants who receive all the same benefits of whites in all these “whites supremacist” countries. Or all the non-whites in prominent political positions in these countries?

                      So much of what you summarily blame racism for, are economic issues. I bet you don’t give a damn about the droves of poor white people in your country who echo much of the same issues. You’ve already decided that everything is about race, and only look for “evidence” to support what you already “know”. Keep sounding off in your echo chamber.
                      Skimmed this and still not an answer of the country your ****** a$$ is from. You’re talking to yourself until you muster up the courage in that caveman body to claim your country. I’m not even reading your bullsht until then.

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