Comments Thread For: Haney: Correct Thing To Say Was I Wouldn't Lose To Anybody; You Live & You Learn

[Marvlus Marv]

This is an obvious lie. Anybody that has read my posts here can see that I don’t post for anybody else’s validation. I don’t need you to validate the truth and I even explained why you don’t. Of course you’re going to lie. You have no credibility. You can’t validate anything.

That’s why I dismiss your feelings. You’ve already admitted that you weren’t even offended let alone oppressed by Haney’s comment, but here you are calling his comments racist just so you can play this tit for tat game and push this false equivalence because it serves as a deflection to real racism. “See, blacks are racist too. Racism goes both ways”


When you use a person’s own evidence against them to prove your point while disapproving their point, it’s always useful. I didn’t skip past anything. I posted the full definition as it appears in Webster. I put the last 2 definitions in bold because those are the definitions that you’ve been skipping past. You accused me of using “alternative definitions” when the definitions I’ve been using are right there in your own dictionary. Even when looking at that first simple/general definition of the word, Haney’s comments wouldn’t qualify. You’re wrong all the way around. You just don’t have the character/integrity to acknowledge it. It’s not your fault though, it’s inherent.
I know the truth hurts but we can keep this simple. All you’ve go to do is cite some proof. What is your evidence that blacks in America are racist to non blacks? What Hopkins said to Calzaghe? What do I or any other black person have to do with Hopkins said? How was Calzaghe and other white people discriminated against or oppressed by what Hopkins said? I don’t want to hear your kuhn rhetoric and talking points about black Americans. Just show proof of what you’re accusing us of.

I said: "Most whites acknowledge they have pockets of racists, but blacks tend not to accept they have pockets of racists/black supremacists too"
You: Got seriously triggered, went on a mind-numbily boring rant about something and then you asked me to give examples of black on white oppression (off topic but probably your favourite speech)
Me: Why are you twisting the subject on to me giving you examples of black oppression against whites when all I said was I don't think blacks really acknowledge that some have racist tendencies towards whites. Not all, just SOME.
Me: I'm done with a triggered, hysterical, perma-victim who can't handle an opinion based on things I've personally heard.
Man up and learn to converse without having a fit, ffs.

THE END.

[Marvlus Marv]

It doesn’t offend me at all...I’m not concerned with other people’s ignorance. It’s about you picking and choosing what to call racism and what not too.

“The definition of the word doesn’t suit me, so I’ll move the goalposts to better suit my agenda”...very trump like, I must say.

Dude got triggered by nothing. He protests too much - which is usually a giveaway.

[Goldie]

I said: "Most whites acknowledge they have pockets of racists, but blacks tend not to accept they have pockets of racists/black supremacists too"
You: Got seriously triggered, went on a mind-numbily boring rant about something and then you asked me to give examples of black on white oppression (off topic but probably your favourite speech)
Me: Why are you twisting the subject on to me giving you examples of black oppression against whites when all I said was I don't think blacks really acknowledge that some have racist tendencies towards whites. Not all, just SOME.
Me: I'm done with a triggered, hysterical, perma-victim who can't handle an opinion based on things I've personally heard.
Man up and learn to converse without having a fit, ffs.

THE END.

This is what I mean by ******. This idiot calls me a “perma victim” after whining about “pockets of blacks racists” that he can’t even give an example of. “Well remember what Hopkins had said to Calzaghe”. You’re whining about “black racism” which only consists of individual black people saying things that my hurt people’s feelings but I’m the “perma victim”.

No, the “perma victims” are you pussCs pretending to be offended by Haney’s comment. The perma victims are “pockets of black racists” who aren’t oppressing anyone. You’re the “perma victim” and the sad part is you aren’t even playing victim in your own behalf.

[Real King Kong]

This is an obvious lie. Anybody that has read my posts here can see that I don’t post for anybody else’s validation. I don’t need you to validate the truth and I even explained why you don’t. Of course you’re going to lie. You have no credibility. You can’t validate anything.

That’s why I dismiss your feelings. You’ve already admitted that you weren’t even offended let alone oppressed by Haney’s comment, but here you are calling his comments racist just so you can play this tit for tat game and push this false equivalence because it serves as a deflection to real racism. “See, blacks are racist too. Racism goes both ways”


When you use a person’s own evidence against them to prove your point while disapproving their point, it’s always useful. I didn’t skip past anything. I posted the full definition as it appears in Webster. I put the last 2 definitions in bold because those are the definitions that you’ve been skipping past. You accused me of using “alternative definitions” when the definitions I’ve been using are right there in your own dictionary. Even when looking at that first simple/general definition of the word, Haney’s comments wouldn’t qualify. You’re wrong all the way around. You just don’t have the character/integrity to acknowledge it. It’s not your fault though, it’s inherent.
I know the truth hurts but we can keep this simple. All you’ve go to do is cite some proof. What is your evidence that blacks in America are racist to non blacks? What Hopkins said to Calzaghe? What do I or any other black person have to do with Hopkins said? How was Calzaghe and other white people discriminated against or oppressed by what Hopkins said? I don’t want to hear your kuhn rhetoric and talking points about black Americans. Just show proof of what you’re accusing us of.

sure buddy...why bother with all this if you're not interested in anyone taking your point as valid?

you dismissed someone else's view point, not mine...I just did the same to you and you clearly didn't like it. you can't seem to wrap your brain around the fact that people have different opinions/views...and when you dismiss others, they're unlikely to be receptive to what you say. if that's not your objective, then are you just some soap box standing blowhard or what?

so skipping the 1st definition is "using a person’s own evidence against them to prove your point while disapproving their point", but presenting you with the first definition is me "skipping past" the others? like I said, given the 1st definition, there really is no context where what haney said couldn't be considered racist. not sure why you're putting all this energy into trying to squirm around it.

the Hopkins comment is exactly the same as what haney said, and the same definition of racism applies. i suppose it has nothing to do with you or any other black person, although I suspect you actually harbor racist feelings, whereas Hopkins may have just said it to promote a fight...still a racist comment either way. tell me then, what do me or any other white person have to do with all the stuff you're going on about? not sure why I'm asking you that because I'm sure it will draw out another long winded emotional rant, and I'd rather be done with this ridiculous conversation. when you can't even recognize the definition of racism for what it is, it's kind of a non starter lol.

[Timur78]

Was Kovalev “sanctioned?” Was Pazienza when he called rosenblatt a “*** boy?” Woke as spike O’Sullivan when he called Lemieux a “greaser?” Were was all this fake outrage when fury talked down about ***s, gays, women etc?
This sjw/“woke/pc culture from the hard right is laughable. It’s fake outrage pure and simple.
I wasn’t offended one damn bit.

Kovalev? Maybe...Calling somebody a monkey can be bad.
If that's what you're referring to.
But then can you call them a pig, dog, donkey. Is it racist?

Kovalev is a great boxer, but not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I understand what he says in his mother language and he isn't articulate at all.
Big ask of him to be articulate in English.

Buy Haney is young, articulate man speaking in his native language.
What's the excuse.

If you are ***ish and you are a Male then calling somebody a "*** Boy" doesn't really cut
as a racist slur.

[Punch on Tap]

I’m so tired of people using the word racism and having no idea what it actually means.

[Punch on Tap]

Its not about “pockets of racists amongst white people”. It’s about an entire system in place that gives whites a s a whole privilege over blacks as a whole. When you look at the structural racism in everything from public education to the court system, that’s about more than just individual white people being racist. There’s no such system in place to privilege “darker skinned non white” communities. Y’all desperately want to push this false equivocation sht and it’s the epitome of cowardice. You don’t even have decency to own your bs.

Btw, nobody plays the “race card” more than white people. If you let white people tell it, they’re actually the ones being oppressed lol.

Dude why bother trying to go back and forth? You’re talking to boxing fans who are most likely not Black American or even American.

Most Americans don’t know their history. They don’t know the particulars of race relations and history and how it relates to how this country started, flourished, and continued to thrive. They don’t know about the laws still on the books and the policy’s across the states that oppress black people and latinos. Hell they don’t even know that racism was nurtured and nourished by White Americans looking to justify their oppression of blacks.

Racism was essentially started on this land (look up the history of racism). Never before in documented history was a group of people put into slavery and treated as nonhuman only because of the color of their skin. It was always about class and religion. Black supremacy was initiated to counter KKK *********s and the laws of the land that allowed lynching and killing of innocent black folks.

But here’s the point. Black supremacy is not racism. Black supremacy at its core strictly fights for equality with white people. Showing black people you can value yourself even though society doesn’t. I’m not denying that there are extremist who are black and feel that they are superior than other races, but the majority of black supremacy groups fight to defend their rights as guaranteed by the constitution.

So if people call Haney racist it’s an uninformed and limited view of their own society. Was his statement ****** and discriminatory, yes. Was it racist...not from my perspective. Especially for a young kid growing up in the stop and frisk generation. Look that up too.

[BodyBagz]

“The correct thing was to say that, you know, I wouldn’t lose to anybody,” Haney said. “You know, and you live and you learn. You know, I’m young* and, you know, I understand what I said wasn’t the correct thing to say. But other than that, I feel like I won’t lose to anyone, any fighter.”

Yeah, we know you know, damn

* = Is he a preteen ?

He isn't sorry one bit. But he gets a pass.

[DaNeutral.]

This is a lie. I’ve never called anyone a racist just for not liking a black fighter.
Why not just take him at his word that he regrets what he said and wish he would’ve said it differently? Did his comments hurt your feelings and thats why you’re holding a grudge? Lol

And I type “lol” when I generally laugh it loud while typing a post. Instead of typing out “laugh out loud” I just type lol. Didn’t know only 12 year olds do that. Ive never been the type to complain about or even dwell on “racist comments”. It’s not about me giving a pass to anyone, it’s about not equating racism with “sht talking”. I’ve only encountered a few non blacks who have insulted me about my race and all but one backed down once confronted. The one that didn’t got his a$$ whipped. If you don’t like what people say as individuals then you can handle it. It’s the system of the discrimination supported by governments that’s oppressing people. Nobody is being impressed by people talking sht, like Haney was doing.

We’ve gone over this before, don’t know why you like quoting me just to say the same sucker sht over and over.

LOL you one of the biggest race baiters on the forum and nobody. Believes you whipped a racists butt.

[Goldie]

sure buddy...why bother with all this if you're not interested in anyone taking your point as valid?

I like to mentally slap you dumb fks around. You’re an idiot and it’s funny to see you try and fail to troll.

Why are you bothering “with all this” when you’re exposing your own ignorance and ******ity? Are you a masochist? This is your argument “well I wasn’t hurt or offended by Haney’s comments in any way, but you still could say it was racist”.

Then you you have the gall to accuse me of playing victim.

you dismissed someone else's view point, not mine...I just did the same to you and you clearly didn't like it. you can't seem to wrap your brain around the fact that people have different opinions/views...and when you dismiss others, they're unlikely to be receptive to what you say. if that's not your objective, then are you just some soap box standing blowhard or what?

I don’t know what you mean by “you didn’t like it when people dismiss your viewpoint”. Look, I’m talking facts not “viewpoints”. I dismiss your “viewpoint” because it’s a lie. It has nothing to do with whether I like/dislike what you’re saying, what you’re saying just isn’t true. When you say that Haney’s comment was “racist” that’s a lie. I exposed your lie by referencing facts about what “racism” actually is. I even tried to appeal to basic logic and common sense but you don’t have much.

so skipping the 1st definition is "using a person’s own evidence against them to prove your point while disapproving their point", but presenting you with the first definition is me "skipping past" the others? like I said, given the 1st definition, there really is no context where what haney said couldn't be considered racist. not sure why you're putting all this energy into trying to squirm around it.

I didn’t skip anything caveboy. I’ll even post it again for ****** a$$.

: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

Haney didn’t say or imply any of that. All he said was that he himself wouldn’t lose to a white boy. He said nothing about black people in general in comparison to white people in general. He said nothing about blacks being superior to whites. This is why you’re a piece of sht. Here you are reaching like Dhalsim in street fighter to paint Haney as a racist over a comment that you’ve already admitted you weren’t even harmed or offended by, but when I reference the systematic white racism that has flat out oppressed millions of black people for centuries you dismiss it.

“Systemic racism doe”...becomes a bunch of broad generalizations about white people.

What kind of cry baby whines about the “system” and the government holding them down? Take some responsibility for yourself.

Again though, I understand your get down. There’s been people like you at every stage of American white supremacy. During slavery there whites denied the existence of racism. Same thing during Jim Crow. You’d have people in full kkk garb saying “racism? What racism? Blacks are just a bunch of complainers making excuses. They should thank us for slavery”. This is par for the course. There’s no shame with you people.

the Hopkins comment is exactly the same as what haney said, and the same definition of racism applies. i suppose it has nothing to do with you or any other black person, although I suspect you actually harbor racist feelings, whereas Hopkins may have just said it to promote a fight...still a racist comment either way. tell me then, what do me or any other white person have to do with all the stuff you're going on about? not sure why I'm asking you that because I'm sure it will draw out another long winded emotional rant, and I'd rather be done with this ridiculous conversation. when you can't even recognize the definition of racism for what it is, it's kind of a non starter lol.

Again, I’m amazed at how shameless you are lol. It’s like I’m talking to a monkey. We’re on 2 different levels of intellect where your level isn’t high enough to comprehend what I’m saying. I’ve explained how systematic racism works and you just don’t get it. At this point I’m just posting for whoever comes along and reads the thread.

White people uphold the system of white supremacy, and that’s how you’re how you’re all complicit. As long as the system of oppression based on race exists, you’re complicit. If you don’t want to be complicit, then end the system. It’s really that simple. If the masses of average white people wanted systematic racism to end, It would end very quickly.

For example, look at how whites have ended the stay at home orders. Cases of infection are still rising and so are the deaths, yet all 50 states have relaxed their stay home orders despite warnings from the government’s own virus task force all because a minority of whites have raised hell. Right wing alt right types grabbed their assault rifles and stormed federal and state buildings threatening violence against everyone from the police to their governors all over the right to go out and act irresponsibly in a global pandemic. Whites openly defy the government and challenge law enforcement’s authority when it’s something they don’t like https://ktxs.com/news/nation-world/d...er?jwsource=cl

If they brought that same “we’re not going to take it” attitude when it came to opposing systematic racism then it would end almost overnight. They don’t challenge it because they’re in support of it.