Why are PACQUIAO fans, industry, content PAC ditched 2010 Drug Testing?

[travestyny]

These PAC defenders, posters, are the same posters whom cheer GGG hardcore and flame on Canelo. I never understood this other than what was said that many PAC fans bandwagoned to GGG after PAC lost to Floyd. I guess they thought PAC leave the scene indefinitely... I could never understand the connection. Perhaps there is some racially based theory, basically boxing fans whom prefer to be against the defacto/status quo that blacks and Mexicans are predominantly the fighters that push the sport, therefore, go against what’s different, preference for curious contrast.

Still, we’ve got Canelo having done advanced drug testing, was still doing VADA for all GGG fights. If GBP or Team Canelo were insecure to use PEDS given all Calibration with time leading to the fight then by the law sports cheating, they would’ve had VADA start testing at 45 days, close like PAC vs Floyd at 53 days. Instead, Canelo agreed more than 80+ days away and signed. Then on the 78th day they find a nano trace...

Yet Canelo still surrendered all extra testing procedures with hair samples and submitting to 365. He performs even better in the second fight.

Why is all this important. These are industry blueprints for how we evaluate performances. There’s no other simple form to explain it.

Look we get it. Floyd’s always been annoying with his arrogance revolving his earnings. It’s like a record on loop. Still he has always had brilliant ring iq, delightful and second coming after Toney. Sweet Pea was more of a daredevil when it came to defense. This is why industry never cared for Floyd along with the alliance with Haymon. That’s why many writers enjoyed their hit pieces against Floyd, though empirically they could never go against his compubox and performance.

With all that, that’s why they preferred to defend the quiet PAC. I find PAC a good guy tbh. He does a lot for his people and no one is perfect. He’s always come off as the naive one. It was actually really sad to hear Manny tell Kellerman that he one as PAC looked frustrated in that situation. I honestly felt sad for him.

With all this being said, it’s hard to blame PAC. His legacy came from a time of non advanced drug testing.

This is why I hate when posters exploit all what we know about the scene. There are just pure haters. It’s one of the reasons I don’t fancy GGG and his fans. You’ve got dummy channels like Ring IQ daneutral whom like to poke at Canelo yet he says “everyone is on PEDS” and then is always parading for Whyte till disday! The same Whyte who failed a UKAD test a couple days away from his fight and we didn’t hear any more specifics about it. Yes these same channels are all fanboy dorks. Same with the LDBC, they make propaganda hits against Canelo yet always cheer RJJ or Toney whom failed anabolic steroids in a time without advanced drug testing.

Could be racism in general, or hate. Hard to tell... ask Breadman.. he speaks highly of Toney yet didn’t make Mailbag articles and it’s titles with “Toney, RJJ, PEDS...”

I mean, for me it just takes a little bit of common sense.

If USADA helped Floyd cheat, we would have never known about the IV. There would be no TUE at all.

If Canelo was purposely cheating, the experts would have been able to figure it out instead of just finding nanograms, nothing in the hair test, etc. The experts were saying that at that amount, it wouldn't have been a great help to him anyway. I just believe it was meat contamination. He agreed to let them test him more than ever and he's still performing exceptionally well.


But you know how it is. If certain posters hate a fighter, they will latch onto anything and try to sway events to fit their agenda.

[MulaKO]

Id extend that to 30.

If you dont know how to be more open minded you can never learn, the truth is easily hid, open mindedness is what finds it.

If you say somebody is saying BS put up facts to show they are, you wanna make a comment without being able to back it up is youth.

The difference between you and me is , I will actually listen to your argument , acknowledge it , even respect it But cause I don’t agree with you I am being youthful as you say

[Thuglife Nelo]

I mean, for me it just takes a little bit of common sense.

If USADA helped Floyd cheat, we would have never known about the IV. There would be no TUE at all.

If Canelo was purposely cheating, the experts would have been able to figure it out instead of just finding nanograms, nothing in the hair test, etc. The experts were saying that at that amount, it wouldn't have been a great help to him anyway. I just believe it was meat contamination. He agreed to let them test him more than ever and he's still performing exceptionally well.


But you know how it is. If certain posters hate a fighter, they will latch onto anything and try to sway events to fit their agenda.

I don’t know why the PAC defenders even bring up IVgate. There’s more rationale, theory, that Floyd “cheated” to feel better with syrum and vitamins if in FACT you’re not allowed IVs. IV’s are more effective and fast acting than oral intake if severely dehydrated. But if the context is to think Floyd used PEDS in that IV is false. The times of flushing like EPO was the 90’s. WADA’s protocols are too advanced today and they would’ve easily found traces in Floyd.

Then we’ve got Toradol-gate. Let these two situations single each other out. That’s even being fair to PAC.. therefore, let’s end the IVgate vs Toradol drama. Floyd beat PAC. End of.

And this is why I make a stink about Floyd with Marquez and Canelo fights. Floyd diehards truly believe Floyd never had trouble making 147. I don’t believe at all what the networks disclosed for his unofficial weights. Fact of the matter is Floyd would be ripped at weighing and soft on fight night. Water is balance everywhere. Therefore Floyd could’ve made 144 for Marquez. If not, we know there was some shadiness in that Floyd don’t want any deprivation at all for fight night. Same with Canelo fight. If Floyd proved he needed an IV for rehydration with PAC then we know those 2lbs with Marquez and Canelo are real occurrences with performance. Sometimes if I don’t drink enough water I feel lethargic and a major headache. Imagine fighters!!! It’s a gruesome sport.

Not saying Canelo would still beat Floyd, not at all. It’s just Canelo’s performance against Floyd was sluggish. One reason why I feel Canelo is a G is because he never made excuses for his lost. That’s having integrity and honor. Not like a PAC or Froch...

[QueensburyRules]

This was the settlement breakdown and legal fee costs.

Defamation “injury” : $20 (because the judge thought it was funny)
Settlement: $67.54 (because Haymon knew the judge)
Legal Costs from Arum’s lawyers wasting a day in court because Floyd was at McDonald’s ordering a Big Mac: $100k

In all, the number that exists was merely the amount that PAC’s lawyers ripped PAC and Arum off. For all we know, I bet Arum just garnished PAC’s earnings from his fights.

The End.

And still all this has nothing to do with PAC refusing IOC style drug testing under WADA’s banned list back in 2010...

- -Fake logic.

TUE 51-0 has never underwent Olympic testing that is so poor they needed BALCO snitches Conte and Heredia to bust their biggest names.

Crack family TUE 51-0 has never had any honor or integrity that U shame U carcass with!

Yup , can't shame the shameless!

[travestyny]

I don’t know why the PAC defenders even bring up IVgate. There’s more rationale, theory, that Floyd “cheated” to feel better with syrum and vitamins if in FACT you’re not allowed IVs. IV’s are more effective and fast acting than oral intake if severely dehydrated. But if the context is to think Floyd used PEDS in that IV is false. The times of flushing like EPO was the 90’s. WADA’s protocols are too advanced today and they would’ve easily found traces in Floyd.

Then we’ve got Toradol-gate. Let these two situations single each other out. That’s even being fair to PAC.. therefore, let’s end the IVgate vs Toradol drama. Floyd beat PAC. End of.

And this is why I make a stink about Floyd with Marquez and Canelo fights. Floyd diehards truly believe Floyd never had trouble making 147. I don’t believe at all what the networks disclosed for his unofficial weights. Fact of the matter is Floyd would be ripped at weighing and soft on fight night. Water is balance everywhere. Therefore Floyd could’ve made 144 for Marquez. If not, we know there was some shadiness in that Floyd don’t want any deprivation at all for fight night. Same with Canelo fight. If Floyd proved he needed an IV for rehydration with PAC then we know those 2lbs with Marquez and Canelo are real occurrences with performance. Sometimes if I don’t drink enough water I feel lethargic and a major headache. Imagine fighters!!! It’s a gruesome sport.

Not saying Canelo would still beat Floyd, not at all. It’s just Canelo’s performance against Floyd was sluggish. One reason why I feel Canelo is a G is because he never made excuses for his lost. That’s having integrity and honor. Not like a PAC or Froch...

I agree with that. I have never ever heard Canelo complain at all. I'm surprised he gets so much hate. He performs exceptionally well and he stepped up to the challenges. What's not to like?

[Shape up]

What are you trying to say here?


You're literally saying what I just said. That Pacquiao is the one who asked for any additions. Nothing in the ISTUE was changed moron.

But thank you for agreeing with me and shooting yourself in the foot


You claimed Floyd had the contract written. FALSE.
You then claimed it stated that no one will be notified. FALSE. It only said that the rules for TUEs can be found in the ISTUE.

Try harder to comprehend what you read, dope.

The testing Agreement that was initially presented to the Pacquiao camp contained no specific reference to retroactive TUEs, but rather to the ISTUE which contains the specific retroactive TUE language.

USADA agreed to the request from Mr. Pacquiao’s representatives that USADA provide mutual notification to both fighters upon the approval of a TUE.
Above is what you posted, notice it says USADA AGREED TO THE REQUEST FROM PACQUIAO THAT USADA PROVIDE MUTUAL NOTIFICATION TO BOTH FIGHTERS UPON THE APPROVAL OF A TUE
FLOYD HAD THE CONTRACT WRITTEN, IT HAD NO NOTIFICATION FOR A TUE, PACQUAIO SENT IT BACK, THE CONTRACT WAS CHANGED TO MUTUAL NOTIFICATION EXACTLY WHAT I SAID HAPPENED GERBIL, YOU HAVE NO IDEA

[travestyny]

The testing Agreement that was initially presented to the Pacquiao camp contained no specific reference to retroactive TUEs, but rather to the ISTUE which contains the specific retroactive TUE language.

USADA agreed to the request from Mr. Pacquiao’s representatives that USADA provide mutual notification to both fighters upon the approval of a TUE.
Above is what you posted, notice it says USADA AGREED TO THE REQUEST FROM PACQUIAO THAT USADA PROVIDE MUTUAL NOTIFICATION TO BOTH FIGHTERS UPON THE APPROVAL OF A TUE
FLOYD HAD THE CONTRACT WRITTEN, IT HAD NO NOTIFICATION FOR A TUE, PACQUAIO SENT IT BACK, THE CONTRACT WAS CHANGED TO MUTUAL NOTIFICATION EXACTLY WHAT I SAID HAPPENED GERBIL, YOU HAVE NO IDEA

Do you realize that you are agreeing with me?


So where is the information that Floyd made up the contract or that it said no one would be notified. It didnt' say that. It only said, the ISTUE is the rules for TUEs.

I guess you admit you are wrong, huh?

[Shape up]

Do you realize that you are agreeing with me?


So where is the information that Floyd made up the contract or that it said no one would be notified. It didnt' say that. It only said, the ISTUE is the rules for TUEs.

I guess you admit you are wrong, huh?

Do you realize you told me I was wrong in an earlier post imbecile, as I've said from the start, your comprehension is zero, learn English gerbil

[Shape up]

Gerbil, I’m trying to be nice to you, if you want to be embarrassed, fine, l will embarrass you once again, I did it last time and I will do it again, Floyd had the contract written, the first contract sent wasn’t signed because your master wanted no one to be informed if a TUE was issued, arum sent it back saying that wouldn’t be acceptable, go read the contract 30 times, where it tells you what’s included tells you what’s omitted

Exactly what I said,

[Shape up]

Do you realize that you are agreeing with me?


So where is the information that Floyd made up the contract or that it said no one would be notified. It didnt' say that. It only said, the ISTUE is the rules for TUEs.

I guess you admit you are wrong, huh?

Why would PACQUAIO write no notification and then change it, you mentioned how PACQUAIO fans have no common sense, best you look in the mirror