Why are PACQUIAO fans, industry, content PAC ditched 2010 Drug Testing?

[Shape up]

Oh really?


Show it then. If anything was cut out, it was because Pacquiao wanted it cut out, dumbo.


Go read the contract and see who signed it first. All of the changes in the contract were put there by Pacquiao's team, as already revealed by USADA publicly and never contested by Pac or his team.


Dumbo

Gerbil, I’m trying to be nice to you, if you want to be embarrassed, fine, l will embarrass you once again, I did it last time and I will do it again, Floyd had the contract written, the first contract sent wasn’t signed because your master wanted no one to be informed if a TUE was issued, arum sent it back saying that wouldn’t be acceptable, go read the contract 30 times, where it tells you what’s included tells you what’s omitted

[travestyny]

Gerbil, I’m trying to be nice to you, if you want to be embarrassed, fine, l will embarrass you once again, I did it last time and I will do it again, Floyd had the contract written, the first contract sent wasn’t signed because your master wanted no one to be informed if a TUE was issued, arum sent it back saying that wouldn’t be acceptable, go read the contract 30 times, where it tells you what’s included tells you what’s omitted

Like I said. Post it up.

You're giving false information. The contract was signed first by Pacquiao after his team made adjustments, and then agreed to by Mayweather afterward.

Go look at the dates on the contract that has been posted, dope

[travestyny]

Floyd had the contract written, the first contract sent wasn’t signed because your master wanted no one to be informed if a TUE was issued, arum sent it back saying that wouldn’t be acceptable, go read the contract 30 times, where it tells you what’s included tells you what’s omitted

You're literally just parroting Thomas Hauser, who made up all of this from his head and provided no proof.

USADA stated publicly how all of this went down. Pacquaio and his team have never contradicted what was stated.

The testing Agreement that was initially presented to the Pacquiao camp contained no specific reference to retroactive TUEs, but rather to the ISTUE which contains the specific retroactive TUE language.

USADA agreed to the request from Mr. Pacquiao’s representatives that USADA provide mutual notification to both fighters upon the approval of a TUE.

Neither Mr. Mayweather nor his representatives were involved in the negotiations between USADA and Mr. Pacquiao’s representatives regarding the revisions to the Testing Agreement. Once USADA and Mr. Pacquiao’s representatives settled on the revised contract language, it was sent to Mr. Mayweather’s representatives for their review and comment. No changes were requested by Mr. Mayweather’s representatives and the Testing Agreement was finalized and fully executed without further revision.

https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf

So USADA sent the contract saying where the rules could be found. Pacquiao suggested adding further notification into the contract. USADA put it in and anything else Pac wanted, and then took the contract to Floyd. He looked it over, contested nothing, added nothing, and then the contract was signed.


Being that the dates match this scenario and USADA put this out publicly and it was never challenged, I think that means you're very likely wrong. Gerbil.

[Shape up]

Above and beyond what he asked for?


A whopping $114,000 for legal fees


Yea, that was so much more than Pacquiao asked for




According to lawyers representing Pacquiao, it was NOT above and beyond what he asked for, but rather not enough.


So someone is lying....you....or the lawyers

The direction of the case took a turn against Floyd Mayweather Jr. last week, when the judge issued a ruling ordering him to pay about $114,000 in legal fees and costs for avoiding questioning under oath from Pacquiao’s lawyers.
Oh my, you are actually more ****** than I thought you were, that wasn't the settlement, the settlement was confidential, that was the judge making Floyd pay pacquiao s legal costs because Floyd didn't turn up to court, I couldn't embarrass you more than the amount you embarrass yourself

[travestyny]

The direction of the case took a turn against Floyd Mayweather Jr. last week, when the judge issued a ruling ordering him to pay about $114,000 in legal fees and costs for avoiding questioning under oath from Pacquiao’s lawyers.
Oh my, you are actually more ****** than I thought you were, that wasn't the settlement, the settlement was confidential, that was the judge making Floyd pay pacquiao s legal costs because Floyd didn't turn up to court, I couldn't embarrass you more than the amount you embarrass yourself

So it was confidential, huh? lol

Is that your proof? Dummy Tell us how much so we can marvel at the gains!

[Thuglife Nelo]

So it was confidential, huh? lol

Is that your proof? Dummy Tell us how much so we can marvel at the gains!

This was the settlement breakdown and legal fee costs.

Defamation “injury” : $20 (because the judge thought it was funny)
Settlement: $67.54 (because Haymon knew the judge)
Legal Costs from Arum’s lawyers wasting a day in court because Floyd was at McDonald’s ordering a Big Mac: $100k

In all, the number that exists was merely the amount that PAC’s lawyers ripped PAC and Arum off. For all we know, I bet Arum just garnished PAC’s earnings from his fights.

The End.

And still all this has nothing to do with PAC refusing IOC style drug testing under WADA’s banned list back in 2010...

[travestyny]

This was the settlement breakdown and legal fee costs.

Defamation “injury” : $20 (because the judge thought it was funny)
Settlement: $67.54 (because Haymon knew the judge)
Legal Costs from Arum’s lawyers wasting a day in court because Floyd was at McDonald’s ordering a Big Mac: $100k

In all, the number that exists was merely the amount that PAC’s lawyers ripped PAC and Arum off. For all we know, I bet Arum just garnished PAC’s earnings from his fights.

The End.

And still all this has nothing to do with PAC refusing IOC style drug testing under WADA’s banned list back in 2010...

You know, this may very well be spot on!

[Shape up]

You're literally just parroting Thomas Hauser, who made up all of this from his head and provided no proof.

USADA stated publicly how all of this went down. Pacquaio and his team have never contradicted what was stated.




So USADA sent the contract saying where the rules could be found. Pacquiao suggested adding further notification into the contract. USADA put it in and anything else Pac wanted, and then took the contract to Floyd. He looked it over, contested nothing, added nothing, and then the contract was signed.


Being that the dates match this scenario and USADA put this out publicly and it was never challenged, I think that means you're very likely wrong. Gerbil.

So USADA sent it to Pacquiao s management, they changed the language in the ISTUE, that being that the commission and the opposing team is notified and then sent it back and Floyd then signed it, and you still think you have no problem with comprehension, pick your game up gerbil

[travestyny]

So USADA sent it to Pacquiao s management, they changed the language in the ISTUE, that being that the commission and the opposing team is notified and then sent it back and Floyd then signed it, and you still think you have no problem with comprehension, pick your game up gerbil

What are you trying to say here?


You're literally saying what I just said. That Pacquiao is the one who asked for any additions. Nothing in the ISTUE was changed moron.

But thank you for agreeing with me and shooting yourself in the foot


You claimed Floyd had the contract written. FALSE.
You then claimed it stated that no one will be notified. FALSE. It only said that the rules for TUEs can be found in the ISTUE.

Try harder to comprehend what you read, dope.

[Thuglife Nelo]

You know, this may very well be spot on!

These PAC defenders, posters, are the same posters whom cheer GGG hardcore and flame on Canelo. I never understood this other than what was said that many PAC fans bandwagoned to GGG after PAC lost to Floyd. I guess they thought PAC leave the scene indefinitely... I could never understand the connection. Perhaps there is some racially based theory, basically boxing fans whom prefer to be against the defacto/status quo that blacks and Mexicans are predominantly the fighters that push the sport, therefore, go against what’s different, preference for curious contrast.

Still, we’ve got Canelo having done advanced drug testing, was still doing VADA for all GGG fights. If GBP or Team Canelo were insecure to use PEDS given all Calibration with time leading to the fight then by the law of sports cheating, they would’ve had VADA start testing at 45 days, close like PAC vs Floyd at 52 days. Instead, Canelo agreed more than 80+ days away and signed. Then on the 78th day they find a nano trace...

Yet Canelo still surrendered all extra testing procedures with hair samples and submitting to 365. He performs even better in the second fight.

Why is all this important. These are industry blueprints for how we evaluate performances. There’s no other simple form to explain it.

Look we get it. Floyd’s always been annoying with his arrogance revolving his earnings. It’s like a record on loop. Still he has always had brilliant ring iq, delightful and second coming after Toney. Sweet Pea was more of a daredevil when it came to defense. This is why industry never cared for Floyd along with the alliance with Haymon. That’s why many writers enjoyed their hit pieces against Floyd, though empirically they could never go against his compubox and performance.

With all that, that’s why they preferred to defend the quiet PAC. I find PAC a good guy tbh. He does a lot for his people and no one is perfect. He’s always come off as the naive one. It was actually sad to see Manny tell Kellerman that he had won, as PAC looked frustrated in that situation. I honestly felt sad for him.

With all this being said, it’s hard to blame PAC. His legacy came from a time of non advanced drug testing.

This is why I hate when posters exploit all what we know about the scene. There are just pure haters. It’s one of the reasons I don’t fancy GGG and his fans. You’ve got dummy channels like Ring IQ daneutral whom like to poke at Canelo yet he says “everyone is on PEDS” and then is always parading for Whyte till disday! The same Whyte who failed a UKAD test a couple days away from his fight and we didn’t hear any more specifics about it. Yes these same channels are all fanboy dorks. Same with the LDBC, they make propaganda hits against Canelo yet always cheer RJJ or Toney whom failed anabolic steroids in a time without advanced drug testing.

Could be racism in general, or hate. Hard to tell... ask Breadman.. he speaks highly of Toney yet didn’t make Mailbag articles and it’s titles with “Toney, RJJ, PEDS...”