Why are PACQUIAO fans, industry, content PAC ditched 2010 Drug Testing?

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  • Shape up
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    #121
    While the facts that Crose culled from the Hauser and USADA versions of the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight are troubling to us as casual fight fans, the concerns about a nonprofit entity functioning as an instrumentality of regulation and oversight raise some additional questions about reliability and probity, given that the six-figure payment to the USADA for its services in the fight came from Mayweather’s camp, notably the controversial Mayweather “advisor” Al Haymon.

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      #122
      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
      manny said drawing blood close to fight time makes him feel week.. and he's said that since the morales fight when he had blood drawn days before his fight with erik.. i guess he's been lying for a long time then, at least he's sticking to the same lie tho right?
      Have you ever lived in your life to give blood in a hospital for tests? You know, a nurse collects two small viles of blood and then you’re on your way... lol

      Yeah man... makes you weak. Only idiots believe this..

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        #123
        Now, in 2018, there’s still reason to question USADA’s commitment to “clean sport” insofar as professional boxing is concerned. As noted above, USADA reports having conducted 1,501 tests for banned substances on 128 professional boxers from January 1, 2010, through August 22, 2018. Yet it appears as though only one of these tests (that of Erik Morales) resulted in an adverse finding that was communicated to a state athletic commission.

        By way of comparison, Dr. Margaret Goodman (president of the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, which is widely regarded as the most credible testing organization in professional boxing) reports that close to four percent of the tests for illegal performance enhancing drugs conducted by VADA come back positive. Using the four-percent benchmark, one would expect that 60 of the 1,501 tests conducted by USADA from 2010 to date would have yielded a positive result.

        Broken down by year, the numbers reported by USADA on its website are as follows:



        YEAR BOXERS TESTS
        2010 2 16
        2011 2 29
        2012 9 113
        2013 11 181
        2014 28 310
        2015 35 446
        2016 16 171
        2017 12 105
        2018 thru 8/22 13 130
        TOTAL 128 1,501
        Virtually all of these tests were administered in conjunction with fights in which companies controlled by Al Haymon had a vested financial interest.

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          #124
          Originally posted by Shape up
          Now, in 2018, there’s still reason to question USADA’s commitment to “clean sport” insofar as professional boxing is concerned. As noted above, USADA reports having conducted 1,501 tests for banned substances on 128 professional boxers from January 1, 2010, through August 22, 2018. Yet it appears as though only one of these tests (that of Erik Morales) resulted in an adverse finding that was communicated to a state athletic commission.

          By way of comparison, Dr. Margaret Goodman (president of the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, which is widely regarded as the most credible testing organization in professional boxing) reports that close to four percent of the tests for illegal performance enhancing drugs conducted by VADA come back positive. Using the four-percent benchmark, one would expect that 60 of the 1,501 tests conducted by USADA from 2010 to date would have yielded a positive result.

          Broken down by year, the numbers reported by USADA on its website are as follows:



          YEAR BOXERS TESTS
          2010 2 16
          2011 2 29
          2012 9 113
          2013 11 181
          2014 28 310
          2015 35 446
          2016 16 171
          2017 12 105
          2018 thru 8/22 13 130
          TOTAL 128 1,501
          Virtually all of these tests were administered in conjunction with fights in which companies controlled by Al Haymon had a vested financial interest.
          Deflection. PAC never had an opinion about advanced drug agencies back in 2010. He probably didn’t know they existed... but remember, he didn’t like to “give” blood because he thought it makes you weak and inhibits performance. Ridiculous Top Rank playbook. Pac was advised to say that and Arum never wanted to know what was going on in PAC’s camp.

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            #125
            It should be further noted that three of the professional boxers who tested clean with USADA during the period in question – Andre Berto, Lamont Peterson, and Canelo Alvarez – tested positive with VADA on other occasions. Indeed, it was VADA’s finding that Alvarez had clenbuterol in his system that forced the rescheduling of his rematch against Gennady Golovkin from May 5 to September 15 of this year.
            Here it should be noted that, as stated earlier in this article, the USADA website says that USADA conducted 105 tests on professional boxers in 2017. But USADA’s 2017 annual report states that USADA conducted 109 tests on professional boxers in 2017.

            Drug-testing is a detail-oriented endeavor. Statistics have to be precisely calculated. How does USADA account for the four missing tests?
            Last edited by Shape up; 05-15-2020, 02:07 AM.

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              #126
              Originally posted by Shape up
              It should be further noted that three of the professional boxers who tested clean with USADA during the period in question – Andre Berto, Lamont Peterson, and Canelo Alvarez – tested positive with VADA on other occasions. Indeed, it was VADA’s finding that Alvarez had clenbuterol in his system that forced the rescheduling of his rematch against Gennady Golovkin from May 5 to September 15 of this year.
              Here it should be noted that, as stated earlier in this article, the USADA website says that USADA conducted 105 tests on professional boxers in 2017. But USADA’s 2017 annual report states that USADA conducted 109 tests on professional boxers in 2017.

              Drug-testing is a detail-oriented endeavor. Statistics have to be precisely calculated. How does USADA account for the four missing tests?
              “Countries like China, Russia, Mexico give Clenbuterol to cattle. If a person ingests contaminated meat it would TECHNICALLY give a POSITIVE RESULT. That’s the downward spiral with that one!” - VADA CEO Margaret Goodman (2016 Al Bernstein Live Stream)

              WBC-CBP setup Canelo because he refused the WBC belt and didn’t want Sulaiman at pressers. VADA excused Vargas who had double of Canelo and in less time to his fight. VADA could never do anything about these situations, so they knew Loeffler would engage GBP and disrupt the contract. Industry never questione the Vargas vs Salido fight. Dan Rafael was on a conference call with Sean Gibbons regarding Vargas’ test and Dan said “btw I believe you guys.” Again, you go by what Goodman said.

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                #127
                USADA has now conceded to multiple third parties (who request that their names not be mentioned in this article) that there was more than one positive test result but that USADA chose to adjudicate these matters internally without reporting the positive test result to the opposing fighter’s camp or state athletic commission that had oversight responsibility with regard to a given fight.

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                  #128
                  From the certifed PED CHEATER fan?

                  Floyd got an IV that armstron use to mask the PEDS

                  Clenelo had failed drug test that make hin ban for 6 months.

                  Pac got accuse of being in peds for doing extraordinary inside the ring.

                  See the difference between the 3 of them?

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Shape up
                    USADA has now conceded to multiple third parties (who request that their names not be mentioned in this article) that there was more than one positive test result but that USADA chose to adjudicate these matters internally without reporting the positive test result to the opposing fighter’s camp or state athletic commission that had oversight responsibility with regard to a given fight.
                    Probably the USADA hide floyd actual teat result. I'm 101% sure that floyd was on PEDS and i think even his own fans knew this but just don't want to accept the truth..

                    Floyd used the IV to rehydrate.
                    Armstrong use the IV to mask the PEDS.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by pasawayako
                      Probably the USADA hide floyd actual teat result. I'm 101% sure that floyd was on PEDS and i think even his own fans knew this but just don't want to accept the truth..

                      Floyd used the IV to rehydrate.
                      Armstrong use the IV to mask the PEDS.

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