Why are PACQUIAO fans, industry, content PAC ditched 2010 Drug Testing?

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #21
    Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
    It means Pac and Floyd would surrender to an advanced anti drug agency that goes by the IOC standards. VADA didn't even exist back then, but USADA was around. All countries operate differently as well as products vary by countries.

    The truth is, Bob Arum wouldn't know what's going on in Pac's camp nor did he probably want to know. Considering Pac was a money machine for Top Rank, as a promoter, Bob would fancy any type of drug testing that goes by the original standard of simply peeing in a cup in the locker room after the fight. IOC style testing, which is something Floyd did back in the 96 games. What's wrong with asking for random blood and urine under WADA's banned substance list? Since these multi million dollar fights, in reality, that's a scary and risky situation since Bob wouldn't know what's going on in Pac's camp... the Olympic level testing is a scary thought since the methods are advanced... more advanced than what traditional testing was about before 2011..
    - -U in U Barney BigBoy trainers by then?

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #22
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules
      - -U in U Barney BigBoy trainers by then?
      - -D’s Nuts In Yo Mouf doe?

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #23
        Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
        - -D’s Nuts In Yo Mouf doe?
        - -U in preused Barney BigBoys?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Roadblock
          Do you know how open ended that comment is, why was anything done for the first time, when did a great idea come .

          What Im saying is Floyd may have been thinking about it for a long time but never had the drawing power to push boxing towards PED free environment, change happens when it happens it doesnt have to have a sinister plan just the ideas coming to mind and the influence to make changes.
          This would make sense if Floyd had been pushing for these tests since he started. But he didn’t because he didn’t care. His reasoning for asking Manny was because “he’s doing things nobody has ever done before “. But he never said exactly what it was. Floyd on the other hand was the first guy to win 5 titles in 5 divisions in less than 10 years. Oddly enough, he never once proposed for stricter testing as he was doing that. So it was never about drawing power. His family has been in the business for decades. They could have brought up even playing fields long before Manny became known. But they didn’t.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Boy Jones Jr.
            This would make sense if Floyd had been pushing for these tests since he started. But he didn’t because he didn’t care. His reasoning for asking Manny was because “he’s doing things nobody has ever done before “. But he never said exactly what it was. Floyd on the other hand was the first guy to win 5 titles in 5 divisions in less than 10 years. Oddly enough, he never once proposed for stricter testing as he was doing that. So it was never about drawing power. His family has been in the business for decades. They could have brought up even playing fields long before Manny became known. But they didn’t.
            That doesn't make sense. There was no advanced drug testing in boxing when Floyd proposed an offer to Pacquiao. Let me repeat, there was no advanced drug testing in boxing when Floyd proposed an offer to Pacquiao.

            That means, Floyd would ALSO surrender himself to strict random blood and urine. In that time, such propositions didn't exist.

            What's worse, as I said, Pacquiao said he wasn't interested in cut off dates and pre fight testing as well as blood... Top Rank wanted NOTHING TO DO with any TMT negotiations with IOC-WADA protocol.
            Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 05-13-2020, 04:34 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Boy Jones Jr.
              This would make sense if Floyd had been pushing for these tests since he started. But he didn’t because he didn’t care. His reasoning for asking Manny was because “he’s doing things nobody has ever done before “. But he never said exactly what it was. Floyd on the other hand was the first guy to win 5 titles in 5 divisions in less than 10 years. Oddly enough, he never once proposed for stricter testing as he was doing that. So it was never about drawing power. His family has been in the business for decades. They could have brought up even playing fields long before Manny became known. But they didn’t.
              It still doesnt make any difference, the idea came when it came, even if it is as you want it to be and Floyd believed Manny was on PEDS, it makes no difference to the fairness of asking for advanced PED testing especially considering the money involved and that amount of money could possibly influence somebody to cheat, this is not a punchup behind the pavillion this the biggest grossing fight in the history of the world, put that into perspective.

              No matter what way you want carve this up there was nothing wrong with wanting this testing as a matter of fact it should have been mandatory , yet on so many levels from morals to money there was a whole lot wrong with refusing it.

              Floyd had no idea Manny would refuse this testing and walk away from the fight, for all intent and purposes it should have been a formality with Manny smiling saying no problems, that would have meant the total innocence of Manny and PED accusations , its extremely su****ious to refuse this and derail the fight over it.

              And ironically Manny demands the same testing of Rios etc, it can only point to the fact Manny did not want to be tested at the time and thats not a good look.
              Last edited by Roadblock; 05-13-2020, 05:04 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Roadblock
                It still doesnt make any difference, the idea came when it came, even if it is as you want it to be and Floyd believed Manny was on PEDS, it makes no difference to the fairness of asking for advanced PED testing especially considering the money involved and that amount of money could possibly influence somebody to cheat, this is not a punchup behind the pavillion this the biggest grossing fight in the history of the world, put that into perspective.

                No matter what way you want carve this up there was nothing wrong with wanting this testing as a matter of fact it should have been mandatory , yet on so many levels from morals to money there was a whole lot wrong with refusing it.

                Floyd had no idea Manny would refuse this testing and walk away from the fight, for all intent and purposes it should have been a formality with Manny smiling saying no problems, that would have meant the total innocence of Manny and PED accusations , its extremely su****ious to refuse this and derail the fight over it.
                - -U TUE 51-0 refused Manny drug testing demands after U TUE 51-0 broke standard drug testing protocol.

                Crack family TUE 51-0 paid Manny an out of court settlement for slander.

                U and TUE 51-0 sitting in a tree K I S S I N G...priceless!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by travestyny
                  You're lying. Nothing in the contract made the blood testing null and void. What are you even talking about???
                  Oh, it’s Floyd’s gerbil, where’s your alter ego dumbsumption, is he in Floyd’s arse currently, stop acting ******, oh sorry, you are ******, you know there was an over riding clause that would make the USADA contract null and void, blood testing would have been covered by the commission regulations ******

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Roadblock
                    Do you know how open ended that comment is, why was anything done for the first time, when did a great idea come .

                    What Im saying is Floyd may have been thinking about it for a long time but never had the drawing power to push boxing towards PED free environment, change happens when it happens it doesnt have to have a sinister plan just the ideas coming to mind and the influence to make changes.

                    Spoken like a true fan girl
                    Sorry brother but gotta call a spade a spade


                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                    - -U TUE 51-0 refused Manny drug testing demands after U TUE 51-0 broke standard drug testing protocol.

                    Crack family TUE 51-0 paid Manny an out of court settlement for slander.

                    U and TUE 51-0 sitting in a tree K I S S I N G...priceless!


                    Gotta agree with this
                    Where there is spark there is fire

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by travestyny
                      You're lying. Nothing in the contract made the blood testing null and void. What are you even talking about???
                      30 “If any rule or regulation whatsoever incorporated or referenced herein conflicts in any respect with the terms of this Agreement, this Agreement shall in all such respects control. Such rules and regulations include, but are not limited to: the Code [the World Anti-Doping Code]; the USADA Protocol; the WADA Prohibited List; the ISTUE [WADA International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions]; and the ISTI [WADA International Standard for Testing and Investigations].”

                      You remember now, the one that says the agreement controls all, that is the fight agreement, not the USADA agreement gerbil

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