Why are PACQUIAO fans, industry, content PAC ditched 2010 Drug Testing?

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  • Chuckguy
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    #151
    Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
    inhibits training doe!! It's crazy that ESPN actually had to ask Pacquiao PRE FIGHT OLYMPIC TESTING and asking him ''well how about 15 days?''

    It goes to show that the commissions weren't doing Olympic style, which meant elite level sport testing... not that they would since it would be expensive to the common boxer...yet, this is Pac vs Floyd we were talking about. Such an expense meant nothing when both fighters would earn multi millions..
    The 15 days was a way for pac to save face. He didn’t want to let floyd Conrtrol al the negotiations. He should have just said floyd isn’t the commission and I’m not giving to his demands unless it’s 70-30 in my favor all around
    He wouldn’t have got it but at least he could have made a point and continue to fight the better opposition
    This whole situation is so dumb both are to blame 50/50 and if you can’t see that then you are either a pac tard or a flo mo

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      #152
      Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
      That doesn’t make any sense. Lol. There was NO ADVANCED DRUG TESTING BEFORE 2011. It’s rather comical how people still don’t understand that what Floyd was eluding to, to have with Pacquiao. The cost for IOC style testing wouldn’t even beEn affordable for Arum and would’ve cost more than Floyd’s own purses building up. WADA was formed in 1999.

      None of this matters. To Floyd’s credit, he set the Tone for new testing Protocols That involved the WADA standard in boxing. But but we afraid of needles doe!
      - -TUE 51-0 promoted 30x testosterone Mickey Bey caught by standard Vegas commish testing, the testing U SissyBoyFloyd successfully eluded.

      The shameless have no shame, no honor, no nothing to gain admittance in the great Hall of Valhalla.

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      • Roadblock
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        #153
        Originally posted by Chuckguy
        The 15 days was a way for pac to save face. He didn’t want to let floyd Conrtrol al the negotiations. He should have just said floyd isn’t the commission and I’m not giving to his demands unless it’s 70-30 in my favor all around
        He wouldn’t have got it but at least he could have made a point and continue to fight the better opposition
        This whole situation is so dumb both are to blame 50/50 and if you can’t see that then you are either a pac tard or a flo mo

        Its PED testing in a 300 million dollar fight, the testing was a WADA protocol , its not open for cut of dates and notice when they are coming.

        Refusing advanced PED testing in a fight this big is a crime against the sport.

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #154
          Originally posted by Chuckguy
          The 15 days was a way for pac to save face. He didn’t want to let floyd Conrtrol al the negotiations. He should have just said floyd isn’t the commission and I’m not giving to his demands unless it’s 70-30 in my favor all around
          He wouldn’t have got it but at least he could have made a point and continue to fight the better opposition
          This whole situation is so dumb both are to blame 50/50 and if you can’t see that then you are either a pac tard or a flo mo
          Don’t try and spin it. PAC from his own mouth said giving blood makes you feel weak AND “it inhibits training.” That’s forever catalogued on YouTube even when we’re gone. PAC is basically saying all Olympians are deprived performances because blood is drawn...two small viles doe. What’s next, “I like to keep my own pee, not share for science because it makes me stronger!”

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          • strykr619
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            #155
            Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
            Pac diehards, or casuals, still don’t understand advanced drug testing in the sport. A decade of implementation while PAC was on ESPN with Brian Kenny saying that even 15 days random blood and urine “inhibits training.”

            No boxer, industry professional, today, says this stuff. If Top Rank really thought drug testing WAS A PROBLEM they would’ve played the narrative that they wanted more PPV upside or guarantee to stir attention away from blood and urine. Truth is Top Rank was doing his thing in-house...

            Instead, Arum had no idea and was naive that the sport wouldn’t change its drug testing protocols in 2011. Arum would continue saying that “nobody wants to watch a boring fighter, a defensive fighter.” All when Floyd was proven PPV.

            This is how we know drug testing was true reason behind it all.
            This is rich coming from a fan of a verified PED cheat.

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            • Roadblock
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              #156
              Floyd was not the first to ask for testing .

              Here is what a clean fighter does when his pride is put out because was asked to take a PED test, he was willing to take the test but he controlled it like a boss, Manny ran for cover.

              Mike Tyson refused to fight Holyfield unless he was PED tested, this out of his book.

              On the other hand,
              Tyson had no probable cause to request such a test and absolutely no right to require one as a condition for the fight going forward. I discussed this with Evander, who came up with a brilliant solution. He said that he would take the test provided that the results would not be revealed to Tyson, until after the fight"



              "There was a prior hint of this defeatist attitude a few weeks earlier when Marc Ratner, the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, called to tell me that Tyson would not fight Evander, unless he took a steroid test.
              This did not bother me at all, because I knew with certainty from many talks with Evander on this topic, that he had never used steroids. Evander told me some people urged him to use steroids, especially when moving up to the heavyweight division.
              Evander always refused for one reason: he would never have known whether he could have done it without the steroids. I wasn't worried about the test, and I knew a refusal would be taken as evidence of guilt. On the other hand,
              Tyson had no probable cause to request such a test and absolutely no right to require one as a condition for the fight going forward. I discussed this with Evander, who came up with a brillant solution. He said that he would take the test provided that the results would not be revealed to Tyson, until after the fight"

              FUll CREDIT, goes to COACH WEBB a poster who did the research to uncover this ground breaking read. Tyson would NOT fight Evander without a steroid test!!! To be completely fair, what Floyd is asking for has been done before...

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              • just the facts
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                #157
                Originally posted by pasawayako
                Probably the USADA hide floyd actual teat result. I'm 101% sure that floyd was on PEDS and i think even his own fans knew this but just don't want to accept the truth..

                Floyd used the IV to rehydrate.
                Armstrong use the IV to mask the PEDS.
                Floyd EASILY beat your hero and your undying man love will never change that. Can you accept the truth.

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                • Vasyl’s dad
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
                  That doesn’t make any sense. Lol. There was NO ADVANCED DRUG TESTING BEFORE 2011. It’s rather comical how people still don’t understand that what Floyd was eluding to, to have with Pacquiao. The cost for IOC style testing wouldn’t even beEn affordable for Arum and would’ve cost more than Floyd’s own purses building up. WADA was formed in 1999.

                  None of this matters. To Floyd’s credit, he set the Tone for new testing Protocols That involved the WADA standard in boxing. But but we afraid of needles doe!
                  Floyd took Olympic testing in 96 though.

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                  • Vasyl’s dad
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Roadblock
                    Yep and so fkn what it doesnt matter a flying fck why he asked for it, its a legitimate request in histories biggest fight, only a kid could not see the moral grounds here.

                    Its not legit to refuse it, the Roses you try to paint smell like dead fish.


                    Its extremely su****ious for an athlete at this level in something so big to refuse PED testing if he is clean, this wasnt a simple you dont have a right to ask me, this was a possible cheat being derailed, one day this will all come out in a book, Mannys career is as shady as hell.
                    It was extremely su****ious for Floyd to fight 39 times with no testing and then do what nobody has ever done before (win 5 titles in 5 divisions in less than 10 years) and accuse someone else of cheating and demanding they do testing nobody else is doing. That’s su****ious.

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                    • QueensburyRules
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
                      Don’t try and spin it. PAC from his own mouth said giving blood makes you feel weak AND “it inhibits training.” That’s forever catalogued on YouTube even when we’re gone. PAC is basically saying all Olympians are deprived performances because blood is drawn...two small viles doe. What’s next, “I like to keep my own pee, not share for science because it makes me stronger!”
                      - -Casting pearls before swine here, but Manny didn't grow up in the soft lad drug and syringe Western culture.

                      His culture holds blood sacred and is not to be shed profanely.

                      U really are a hot mess slinging U mess everywhere. U incarcerated too?

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