What's the real reason Pacquiao refused Floyd's Random Blood Testing offer in 2009?

[IceTrayDaGang]

I have no problem with you bringing his father in it. I don't see the point.

His father said he feels Floyd shouldn't fight him.


Freddie Roach said Pac's side was the reason for the fight not happening.


I don't see the issue


You're not playing this like you want to discuss the truth. You're playing this like you're a defense attorney. lol. You're trying to say we can only go by exactly what Pacquaio said.

But didn't Pacquaio always say, "It's up to my promoter, Bob Arum."

So when Bob Arum says they aren't interested in the fight......

sr said he will advise floyd not to fight pac.. this was in 2009, you know around the time the negotiation started......

roach's video came out years later.... so are you telling me roach sent a secret email to floyd to tell floyd to demand random testing for manny because roach knows manny will not accept it? lol.....

the fight fell apart ALL because of floyd asking for random blood testing... so again, how was it team pac's fault if you wanna use what roach is saying? lol.

you quoted me and responded to me saying floyd was damm near begging pac for a fight before his jail time... so i said that's not true because if he was begging pac for a fight, he would have dropped the blood testing demand which is what KILLED the fight.... so i said let's look at what each fighter has said and let's see who was really ducking who!

i posted all the stuff that pac said -- and he wanted a cut off, that's it. he never made any other excuses, he says he wanted a cut off and he explained his reasons why.

then i posted all the stuff that floyd said -- telling pac he needs to avenge the loss to bradley, then to marquez, then saying pac needs to leave TR first and signed with TMT.. all that came from floyd jr! not sr, not roger, not jeff!

this is why i am asking you why are you bringing up stuff from roach? because if you wanna do that, then i can also bring up stuff from sr. geezus man!!

[travestyny]

sr said he will advise floyd not to fight pac.. this was in 2009, you know around the time the negotiation started......

roach's video came out years later.... so are you telling me roach sent a secret email to floyd to tell floyd to demand random testing for manny because roach knows manny will not accept it? lol.....

the fight fell apart ALL because of floyd asking for random blood testing... so again, how was it team pac's fault if you wanna use what roach is saying? lol.

No. The fight fell apart because Pacquiao claimed to need 24 days to recover from giving 2 tbsps of blood. I shouldn't have to explain why that is ridiculous.

you quoted me and responded to me saying floyd was damm near begging pac for a fight before his jail time... so i said that's not true because if he was begging pac for a fight, he would have dropped the blood testing demand which is what KILLED the fight.... so i said let's look at what each fighter has said and let's see who was really ducking who!

i posted all the stuff that pac said -- and he wanted a cut off, that's it. he never made any other excuses, he says he wanted a cut off and he explained his reasons why.

then i posted all the stuff that floyd said -- telling pac he needs to avenge the loss to bradley, then to marquez, then saying pac needs to leave TR first and signed with TMT.. all that came from floyd jr! not sr, not roger, not jeff!

this is why i am asking you why are you bringing up stuff from roach? because if you wanna do that, then i can also bring up stuff from sr. geezus man!!

Ok. And what I'm telling you is this.

Regarding a fight in 2012:

Mayweather said: Let's get it on.

Pacquiao said: ......... (Silence)

Arum said: Pac wants Marquez.


The fight is made with Marquez.

So how is it exactly that Floyd's stance changed once Manny got Knocked out cold? He was calling for the fight when Pac's team said no to it, before he got knocked out. That's all I'm saying to you.

[IceTrayDaGang]

No. The fight fell apart because Pacquiao claimed to need 24 days to recover from giving 2 tbsps of blood. I shouldn't have to explain why that is ridiculous.




Ok. And what I'm telling you is this.

Regarding a fight in 2012:

Mayweather said: Let's get it on.

Pacquiao said: ......... (Silence)

Arum said: Pac wants Marquez.


The fight is made with Marquez.

So how is it exactly that Floyd's stance changed once Manny got Knocked out cold? He was calling for the fight when Pac's team said no to it, before he got knocked out. That's all I'm saying to you.

lol you dont even make sense anymore, you're just posting just to save face lol..

the fight fell apart because floyd asked for blood testing! so again, how was that team pac's fault? did roach sent a text to floyd telling floyd to demand for random testing during negotiation so that roach can advise pac to say no? was that it? lol..

sr. said in an interview in 2009 (which is around the time the first negotiation started) that he will advise floyd not to fight manny... then all of a sudden floyd asked for random blood testing which he never need it previously for all his fights.... coincidence??? or was sr's in floyd's ear? you tell me! lol..

[travestyny]

lol you dont even make sense anymore, you're just posting just to save face lol..

the fight fell apart because floyd asked for blood testing! so again, how was that team pac's fault? did roach sent a text to floyd telling floyd to demand for random testing during negotiation so that roach can advise pac to say no? was that it? lol..

No. It didn't. There was no problem with there being blood testing. There was an issue with the CUT OFF for blood testing.

Obviously it was Pac's team's fault because a 24 day cut off makes no sense.

sr. said in an interview in 2009 (which is around the time the first negotiation started) that he will advise floyd not to fight manny... then all of a sudden floyd asked for random blood testing which he never need it previously for all his fights.... coincidence??? or was sr's in floyd's ear? you tell me! lol..

I don't know why you think this is relevant. Floyd Sr. doesn't negotiate fights for Floyd Mayweather. Your deflection isn't working, bruv.


Again, the issue wasn't that there would be blood testing. The issue was with the cut-off date. Pacquiao wanted 30 days, got busted giving blood 24 days before one of his other fights, his team then couldn't justify 30 days and shifted to 24 days.

And no, a boxer doesn't need 24 days to recover from giving blood, obviously. It's not rocket science.

[aboutfkntime]

lol you dont even make sense anymore, you're just posting just to save face lol..

the fight fell apart because floyd asked for blood testing! so again, how was that team pac's fault? did roach sent a text to floyd telling floyd to demand for random testing during negotiation so that roach can advise pac to say no? was that it? lol..

sr. said in an interview in 2009 (which is around the time the first negotiation started) that he will advise floyd not to fight manny... then all of a sudden floyd asked for random blood testing which he never need it previously for all his fights.... coincidence??? or was sr's in floyd's ear? you tell me! lol..

bullshlt !!

that fight did not fall apart until Pacquiao refused LMAO

dude, stop making ridiculous excuses... nobody else had a problem taking harmless blood tests

Pac gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests... which is absurd, because we needed 1 genuine reason... Pac gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses, because he did not have 1 genuine reason

which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe... ?

serious question... let's find out how you roll

which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you... ?

FACT: when Pac finally agreed to testing, none of those 8 ridiculous excuses were even mentioned... not one, NOT ONCE!!

FACT: nobody else had a problem taking harmless blood tests

[aboutfkntime]

No. It didn't. There was no problem with there being blood testing. There was an issue with the CUT OFF for blood testing.

Obviously it was Pac's team's fault because a 24 day cut off makes no sense.

I don't know why you think this is relevant. Floyd Sr. doesn't negotiate fights for Floyd Mayweather. Your deflection isn't working, bruv.

Again, the issue wasn't that there would be blood testing. The issue was with the cut-off date. Pacquiao wanted 30 days, got busted giving blood 24 days before one of his other fights, his team then couldn't justify 30 days and shifted to 24 days.

And no, a boxer doesn't need 24 days to recover from giving blood, obviously. It's not rocket science.

and unbelievably, Mayweather agreed to a 14-day cutoff

which is bizarre, because there is no such thing as a cutoff date for random blood testing... USADA test right up to the fight

the difference boiled down to 10 days

what would have happened during that additional 10-day period... that made the request for USADA testing a total deal-breaker, in such a massive fight?

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[aboutfkntime]

NOTE: the first 4 options in this poll... are total bullshlt

* He didn't want to give Mayweather the control/play his game
* He felt at the time it was a ridiculous offer/harassment
* He hated needles
* He truly felt that drawing blood close to fight would weaken him


those 4 options are total bullshlt, none of those silly excuses are possible because Pacquiao agreed to USADA testing... the fight died because he refused to accept a 14-day cutoff date, insisting on a 24-day cutoff

so the only options left are...

* He was hiding something more sinister
* Other