Ricardo Lopez doesn’t get enough respect

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  • Marchegiano
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    #41
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Ricardo Lopez fights were one of the highlights of the stacked Don King PPVs, actually.

    Strawwweight or not he was brilliant to watch.
    tongue-in-cheek bud, I have no real criticisms and have bragged on him many times actually. Usually around the 0 conversations but still brags nonetheless.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #42
      Originally posted by Vodkaholic
      Show some respect. Lopez is the real TBE
      Yeahhhhh no. He’s not.

      Nor close.

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      • Vodkaholic
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        #43
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Yeahhhhh no. He’s not.

        Nor close.
        its funny how serious you are that theres another undefeated fight thats not floyd

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          #44
          Originally posted by Vodkaholic
          its funny how serious you are that theres another undefeated fight thats not floyd
          It’s funny that you’d relate it back to Floyd for no reason what so ever.

          Couldn’t care less about an undefeated record. If anything Ricardo Lopez is living proof that an undefeated record means little.

          Considering, his resume is weak. Despite being undefeated.

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          • lopetego
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            #45
            Finito is considered the GOAT of his division by pretty much everyone

            That's a lot of respect, isn't it?

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              #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Resume’s pretty weak, that’s why.
              weak is a bit of an exaggeration most people dont even watch strawweights to know who is actually good....the only names in the era were Saman Saturong(he blasted him out)....michael carbajal (who had a series with Gonzalez) and Humberto Gonzalez(who saman stopped for the title)

              he did beat good fighters and former champions rosendo alvarez in a classic, like Alex sanchez, will grigby, Ratanapol Sor Vorapin kermin gaurdia zonlani petelo, 2 time champ Hideyuki Ohashi to win the title at 105


              compared to say some like Ali or Ray Robinson of course it would seem weak but there are less elite, little fighters than the other divsions and they fight each other more often so their records appear more spotty, like Manny Melchor, he won major world title but ended career with a record that appears he was a journeyman
              Last edited by therealpugilist; 05-07-2020, 02:57 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Thraxox
                Pretty weak resume. Head2Head from Minimumweight-Flyweight Roman Gonzalez beats him.
                I think lopez would clearly beat him with precision punches on the outside and counter punching. he showed vs alvarez he can dig deep when the skills werent enough, only dropped once in his career.


                I think Lopez would be too sharp and mobile it would have been an absolute war....Gonzalez and those combos....man

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                • JK1700
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  I think lopez would clearly beat him with precision punches on the outside and counter punching. he showed vs alvarez he can dig deep when the skills werent enough, only dropped once in his career.


                  I think Lopez would be too sharp and mobile it would have been an absolute war....Gonzalez and those combos....man
                  I agree with you here. A lot of the people hating on Lopez in this thread have probably never seen him fight. Especially the ones saying Roman beats him. It’s a tough fight don’t get me wrong but Rosendo Alvarez was basically the same guy as Gonzalez and to me had more boxing skills. He outboxed Chana Porpaoin who was another great fighter similar to Ricardo Lopez. Not as gifted but he was extremely good. Alvarez at his peak was every bit as good as Roman Gonzalez, he just didn’t accomplish as much so isn’t as well known. He was a legitimately great fighter though. Had it all, speed, power, boxing skill, very strong. Smart.

                  Having watched a lot of the greats of that era in the lower weight classes I think Humberto Gonzalez would’ve been his toughest fight because that guy was a very skilled boxer with serious power and like Lopez he could fight in different styles! It’s a shame they were buddies and trained together in the same gym under Nacho because that would have been one hell of a fight.
                  Last edited by JK1700; 05-07-2020, 03:11 PM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by JK1700
                    I agree with you here. A lot of the people hating on Lopez in this thread have probably never seen him fight. Especially the ones saying Roman beats him. It’s a tough fight don’t get me wrong but Rosendo Alvarez was basically the same guy as Gonzalez and to me had more boxing skills. He outboxed Chana Porpaoin who was another great fighter similar to Ricardo Lopez. Not as gifted but he was extremely good. Alvarez at his peak was every bit as good as Roman Gonzalez, he just didn’t accomplish as much so isn’t as well known. He was a legitimately great fighter though. Had it all, speed, power, boxing skill, very strong. Smart.

                    Having watched a lot of the greats of that era in the lower weight classes I think Humberto Gonzalez would’ve been his toughest fight because that guy was a very skilled boxer with serious power and like Lopez he could fight in different styles! It’s a shame they were buddies and trained together in the same gym under Nacho because that would have been one hell of a fight.
                    what i always respected about nacho is he built his fighters from the ground up basically but didnt get all those accolades like freddie roach

                    I think Gonzalez would would have been the toughest as well....carbajal was tough but erect lacked head movement...

                    rosendo was one of my favorites after the lopez fights he wasnt as active as he should have been but he was clearly an elite level lower p4p type....people just didnt see him fight

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      what i always respected about nacho is he built his fighters from the ground up basically but didnt get all those accolades like freddie roach

                      I think Gonzalez would would have been the toughest as well....carbajal was tough but erect lacked head movement...

                      rosendo was one of my favorites after the lopez fights he wasnt as active as he should have been but he was clearly an elite level lower p4p type....people just didnt see him fight
                      Yeah Gonzalez and Lopez are two of my favourites to watch. Nacho doesn’t get the credit he deserves that’s true. No disrespect to Freddie Roach but I think him being an attention whore and talking to the media every 5 minutes helps him in getting more credit. Plus people feel sorry for him because of Parkinson’s. I’ll probably get hate for saying that but it’s just the truth.

                      Carbajal - Lopez almost happened but to me they peaked at different times. By the time Lopez was on the up (95 onwards) MC was not the same guy. He gets a lot of respect from me though. He was super tough and never out of it because of his power (The Arce fight to me is one of the great examples of this, along with Foreman-Moorer). Gonzalez was a beast, even in his losses he was dominating them before he got caught. The Saman-Gonzalez fight is one of my favourites to watch. Never gets old. Saman is another fun fighter to watch for those of you who like watching the smaller guys. Huge heart and a monster in his prime.

                      Yeah Alvarez being with Don King was his downfall. He still beat some really good fighters though (Porpaoin being the best).
                      Last edited by JK1700; 05-07-2020, 03:30 PM.

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