Weight bully? Or weight-drained? Which is it?

[Jax teller]

The amount of clenbuterol found in his system was small and consistent with meat contamination. It has since become a legal amount.

Also, he did 24/7/365 VADA testing and still made the weight no problem. And he performed even better then when he was supposedly on clenbuterol.

Consistent but not conclusive.

Honestly I don't care much and either situation is just as likely since clen in mexi-meat is a known thing you have to ask why would an elite athlete with a likely strict diet plan and wealth to source any ingredients, be taking such a risk that could have massive reprocussions on his whole career? Are't his trainers butchers or something as well? You'd think they'd know better.

[sunny31]

I think boxing fans are complete and utter ******'s.

Weight bully IS NOT a thing. If you make the weight and you are strong c'est la vie, the rules are the same for everyone.

Obviously there is a line, and weight drained happens when a fighter takes that principal too far and it weakens them. But at the end of the day the rules are the same when you sign the contract the better man will win end of story

[Robi13]

This is an easy topic... the weight is agreed upon before fighters even train or fight each other... As a boxer, this makes it an even playing field as you choose to fight in any division you want... if you make the agreed upon weight, regardless if you drop 100 pounds to make weight, then you can rehydrate to whatever the phuck weight you want to fight at... I don’t see what’s the big deal... people just like to complain like b.itches

[4truth]

Canelo was the perfect example. Young and able to just barely squeeze under the 154 limit, was ruined by a mere 2 pound demand. Canelo regularly outweighed the title holder in the next division up but insisted he wasn't ready to move up to middleweight.

That said, so long as you are simply fighting according to the same rules every other fighter is and not demanding special a-side requirements, it's fair play in my book. Some fighters are against the rail already in the division they fight in. They have already done the math on dehydration and re-hydration and the time it takes to do it. It isn't difficult to phck a fighter like that up with a seemingly innocent special weight stipulation.

[GhostofDempsey]

It really depends on their individual conditioning, how they lose the weight, and how much weight they pack on the day of the fight. How much prior notice does a fighter receive before being offered a fight where he has to make weight? If you're calling down fighters in higher weight classes who have to lose 30+ pounds from their walking around weight in 8 weeks, they are likely to suffer from weight drain. If you refuse to be weighed the day of a fight against an opponent much smaller or coming up in weight, you're probably a weight bully.

[kushking]

Canelo was the perfect example. Young and able to just barely squeeze under the 154 limit, was ruined by a mere 2 pound demand. Canelo regularly outweighed the title holder in the next division up but insisted he wasn't ready to move up to middleweight.

That said, so long as you are simply fighting according to the same rules every other fighter is and not demanding special a-side requirements, it's fair play in my book. Some fighters are against the rail already in the division they fight in. They have already done the math on dehydration and re-hydration and the time it takes to do it. It isn't difficult to phck a fighter like that up with a seemingly innocent special weight stipulation.

Like how ggg claimed for yrs he only fights at mw & was too much of a scared btch to fight anyone but bums at cws or smw(Rosado/rolls) despite ggg getting sick from draining himself to make mw,he was too much of a scared pvssy to fight a real smw at a cw or at smw. You gstans are clowns

[4truth]

Like how ggg claimed for yrs he only fights at mw & was too much of a scared btch to fight anyone but bums at cws or smw(Rosado/rolls) despite ggg getting sick from draining himself to make mw,he was too much of a scared pvssy to fight a real smw at a cw or at smw. You gstans are clowns

I can't even read your illiterate garble.

[kushking]

I can't even read your illiterate garble.

Because you're a hypocrite ggg nutrider stan,gtfoh clown

[_Maxi]

Not everyone can lose 17-20 pounds of water, that's the issue. We're judging fighters for their ability to cut weight? or for their fighting skills?

[elfag]

The amount of clenbuterol found in his system was small and consistent with meat contamination. It has since become a legal amount.

Also, he did 24/7/365 VADA testing and still made the weight no problem. And he performed even better then when he was supposedly on clenbuterol.

You cant really tell either way. The only thing you can rule out with a trace amount is that he did not take a large dose right before the test.

It does not mean he didnt take an intentional dose a longer time period before the test or proves that he ate contaminated meat with trace amounts.

It helps his case but doesnt prove it.