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  • Chollo Vista
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    #41
    Just admit you don't know how to cite sources.

    I'm not looking up "your claim" LMAO Are you crazy?

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      #42
      Originally posted by daggum
      cite sources? this isnt a paper. its a link to the rankings. why arent you looking at them? why are you stalling and continuing t post?
      Because you made the claim, not me. Sending me a link to a site that has rankings for the last 120 years isn't citing a source or proving your claim LMAO

      What grade did you finish?

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        #43
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista
        Because you made the claim, not me. Sending me a link to a site that has rankings for the last 120 years isn't citing a source or proving your claim LMAO

        What grade did you finish?
        or in other words you refuse to look

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            #45
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista
            Because you made the claim, not me. Sending me a link to a site that has rankings for the last 120 years isn't citing a source or proving your claim LMAO

            What grade did you finish?
            sending you a link to the proof isnt proof? this is just sad stuff take the L like i said before. you now have the proof on here and on the ring site if you figure out how to use a computer.

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              #46
              Originally posted by daggum
              LMAO that's not how it works daggum

              For instance, let's take Curtis Stevens for example. If he wasn't ranked at the end of 2012 in the Ring top 10, how does he get KO'd in Nov 2013 and by the end of 2013 in December, all of a sudden he's ranked as #10?

              Based off the photo you showed me, Stevens was unranked when he fought G, lost to him and then became #10. That's based off your own image, is it not?

              Explain to me how he wasn't ranked at the end of 2012, beat 3 journeymen, then got KO'd in November 2013 only to be #10 at the end of 2013? How does that make sense?

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                #47
                Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                List the 9 with references. I'd like to see it

                And again. Which standard are you using? Or are you just using the one that has them in the top 10?

                And I know for a fact, Brook wasn't a top 10 MW
                I can give you the nine:

                By Cliff Rold - Using the ratings of the published issues of Ring Magazine, and the archived ratings of the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board (TBRB) since their debut in October 2012, and under the assumption they act as a reasonable gauge of the state of each of boxing’s seventeen weight divisions over the last decade, a select group...


                Golovkin

                Record Against Rated Opponents: 11-1-1

                Rated Opponents in the 2010s: TKO5 Grzegorz Proksa (Ring #9 - 160), TKO7 Gabrial Rosado (Ring Unrated/TBRB #10 - 154), KO3 Matthew Macklin (Ring #5/TBRB #6 - 160), RTD8 Curtis Stevens (Ring #9/TBRB Unrated - 160), TKO3 Daniel Geale (Ring #2/TBRB #5 - 160), KO2 Marco Antonio Rubio (Ring #8/TBRB Unrated), TKO11 Martin Murray (Ring #6/TBRB #4 - 160), TKO8 David Lemieux (Ring/TBRB #4 - 160), TKO5 Kell Brook (Ring/TBRB #1 - 147), UD12 Daniel Jacobs (Ring/TBRB #2 - 160), D12 Saul Alvarez (Ring Champion/TBRB #2 -160), L12 Saul Alvarez (Ring/TBRB Unrated* - 160), UD12 Sergey Derevyanchenko (Ring #6/TBRB #3 - 160)

                Wilder didn't make the top twenty for the decade but I scored him too. To date, he's 3-1-1 against fighters rated in the top ten of Ring or TBRB when he fought them:

                Stiverne (2 Ring/3 TBRB; first fight), Ortiz (5 both), Fury (7/8), Ortiz (5/6) and then Fury in his last fight was rated 1/2 with Wilder before their last fight.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by crold1
                  I can give you the nine:

                  By Cliff Rold - Using the ratings of the published issues of Ring Magazine, and the archived ratings of the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board (TBRB) since their debut in October 2012, and under the assumption they act as a reasonable gauge of the state of each of boxing’s seventeen weight divisions over the last decade, a select group...


                  Golovkin

                  Record Against Rated Opponents: 11-1-1

                  Rated Opponents in the 2010s: TKO5 Grzegorz Proksa (Ring #9 - 160), TKO7 Gabrial Rosado (Ring Unrated/TBRB #10 - 154), KO3 Matthew Macklin (Ring #5/TBRB #6 - 160), RTD8 Curtis Stevens (Ring #9/TBRB Unrated - 160), TKO3 Daniel Geale (Ring #2/TBRB #5 - 160), KO2 Marco Antonio Rubio (Ring #8/TBRB Unrated), TKO11 Martin Murray (Ring #6/TBRB #4 - 160), TKO8 David Lemieux (Ring/TBRB #4 - 160), TKO5 Kell Brook (Ring/TBRB #1 - 147), UD12 Daniel Jacobs (Ring/TBRB #2 - 160), D12 Saul Alvarez (Ring Champion/TBRB #2 -160), L12 Saul Alvarez (Ring/TBRB Unrated* - 160), UD12 Sergey Derevyanchenko (Ring #6/TBRB #3 - 160)

                  Wilder didn't make the top twenty for the decade but I scored him too. To date, he's 3-1-1 against fighters rated in the top ten of Ring or TBRB when he fought them:

                  Stiverne (2 Ring/3 TBRB), Ortiz (5 both), Fury (7/8), Ortiz (5/6) and then Fury in his last fight was rated 1/2 with Wilder in both sets before their last fight.
                  I already saw that as i have the article saved. Now see my response above.

                  How does having Stevens at #10 make sense? Going off the annual rankings, Stevens was unranked when he fought G

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                    LMAO that's not how it works daggum

                    For instance, let's take Curtis Stevens for example. If he wasn't ranked at the end of 2012 in the Ring top 10, how does he get KO'd in Nov 2013 and by the end of 2013 in December, all of a sudden he's ranked as #10?

                    Based off the photo you showed me, Stevens was unranked when he fought G, lost to him and then became #10. That's based off your own image, is it not?

                    Explain to me how he wasn't ranked at the end of 2012, beat 3 journeymen, then got KO'd in November 2013 only to be #10 at the end of 2013? How does that make sense?
                    Stevens was rated #9 at middleweight in the issue just prior to his fight with Golovkin. January 2014 cover date, ratings current to 10/20/2013. Stevens entered the top ten because JCC Jr. was moved out due to the Vera debacle and N'Jikam was removed for inactivity.

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                    • daggum
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                      LMAO that's not how it works daggum

                      For instance, let's take Curtis Stevens for example. If he wasn't ranked at the end of 2012 in the Ring top 10, how does he get KO'd in Nov 2013 and by the end of 2013 in December, all of a sudden he's ranked as #10?

                      Based off the photo you showed me, Stevens was unranked when he fought G, lost to him and then became #10. That's based off your own image, is it not?

                      Explain to me how he wasn't ranked at the end of 2012, beat 3 journeymen, then got KO'd in November 2013 only to be #10 at the end of 2013? How does that make sense?
                      undefeated WBA titleholder Gennady Golovkin broke down No. 9-rated Curtis Stevens to an eighth-round stoppage with Stevens’ corner halting the bout at the end of the round. “GGG” cannot improve his No. 1 rating. Stevens will drop from No. 9 to No. 10

                      https://www.******.com/181755-ring-r...ight-rankings/

                      put in ring-tv without the dash

                      you are right he was actually ranked 9 not 10 lmao. this is embarrassing. you must have no shame

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